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I wish the Steam Controller used AA batteries
(lemmy.world)
Based on the description on their site, the controller includes a built-in battery: "8.39 Wh Li-ion battery, 35+ hours of gameplay... "
That was disappointing for me. Specially condidering the Steam Frame's controllers make use of AA batteries: "One replaceable AA battery per controller, 40hr battery life"
AA Batteries might not be as convenient to use, but being able to replace them is a great advantage. All my Xbox360 controllers still work fine, but none of my PS3' Dualshock 3s.
The official docking station could be used to recharge (rechargables) AA batteries so the functionality could remain the same.
I don't think you understand. I'm not talking about service. No one is talking about normal use. We're talking about swappable batteries. Remember like we had in phones back in the day? I swap the batteries on my current controller every few days. It's not unreasonable to expect modern controllers to have the same functionality they had 20 years ago...
Except that you don't have to swap the batteries on a built-in rechargeable battery every few days. You plug it in when you aren't using it, and swap the batteries every few years when they stop holding a charge. I guarantee you the time spent swapping AAs every few days will far outweigh the time you spend using a screw driver to replace this battery at the frequency it requires.
And what happens when the controller dies? That requires:
I don't have a charging station in my couch.
I guarantee you it doesn't. Not to mention those screws would become stripped in a matter of weeks.
Man is gaming 24/7 and has zero downtime where he could plug in a controller. That's dedication right there /s
We've already been over this. I don't want to be tethered to a cable.
Sounds like your use case is unique and does not match the use case of the vast majority of users. Maybe you should look for another controller that meets your very specific requirements more closely.
I already have one, but thank you for the suggestion.
OP and several others have expressed similar sentiments in this thread so I'm obviously not alone in the "vast minority".
You think you're use case isn't a tiny minority because you found some other people on a thread?
A thread specifically about the use case?
This is how the world gets dumber.
Every controller I own (dual shocks, dual senses, 8bitdo's, switch pros) lasts me an entire day of gaming at least. Plug them in at night and you're good.
I suppose your phone has never died because you forgot to or didn't have time to plug it in? It's just yet another device that I have to worry about managing the battery.
Maybe once a year? Plugging a cable in for 20 min isn't asking a lot.
It doesn't matter if it's "asking a lot" or not, I just don't want to do it. I don't want to worry about it. It's not my preference.
My preferance is to not have to change batteries constantly, so I suppose I'll buy a controller made for people like me and you can buy one made for people like you! It all works out in the end.
What's the alternative for phones? My last phone had about 2-3 days battery life and I ran into this issue more frequently because I didn't need to have a routine. My current phone lasts about a day and a half, so my routine is to charge at night, but if I forget, I charge in the morning or at work.
In the old days with easy to swap batteries, I never brought a spare with me because that required more planning than charging at night. In the old old days of flip and candybar phones, they lasted a week, so recharging wasn't a big deal.
The controller situation is different. I have both an Xbox 360 and a DS4, and the DS4 is less fussy. Why? I only need to charge it like once a week given how much I play, so it's more like the old flip phone.
I can't answer your question because this just makes zero sense to me.
What, you would always bring a spare with you?
The only things I bring with me are keys, wallet, and phone. If I'm traveling somewhere far (road trip or flight), I'll bring a power bank. Even if my phone had easily rechargeable batteries, I wouldn't bother with them.
It doesn't require "planning". You throw them in your bag and that's it. That's not a plan.
I usually don't have a bag with me. So it would need to go in my pocket, and I don't like those to be full.
If I have a bag, that means I'm either going to work (plenty of charging options) or on a trip. I've covered the latter case with the power bank.
What happens if your controller dies and you're out of AA batteries?
I don't run out. They're rechargeable.
And if you forget or don't have time to plug them in to recharge?
They're always charged because I put them on the charger when I rotate them.
You're so close to getting it...
You're not...
Mate you are actually are dumb and dense as a rock. I'm honestly impressed someone can be this out of touch with the reality of the world around them and the people living in it.
You have to be fucking with everyone in this thread. There is no possible way your serious here.
Right, I should join all of the 1337 gamers that only agree with your opinions. Fuck off, dumbass. Get absolutely fucked. 🖕
~~They're~~ The controller is always charged because I put ~~them~~ it on the charger when I ~~rotate them.~~ am not using it.
So the controller never dies unless you're playing for more than a day straight, and there's no fiddly swapping out of batteries. The only downside is that you might need to replace the battery in like 5 years time with heavy use, and it's only marginally more difficult than swapping out AAs.
Or...you didn't plug it in? I don't have to worry about plugging it in. Not every hour. Not every Day. Not every week or every year. There is never a time when the batteries are dead or I need to fiddle with a cable. Ever.
Well it will be fine even if you only leave it charging a tiny fraction of the times you use it. And with AAs you have to remember to change them anyway or it will die while you're playing.
And if you think the process of:
opening the back cover, taking out the AAs (especially on the original steam controller), putting them in a charger, and putting new ones back in the controller
is even close to as easy as just setting the controller down on a magnetic charger, I don't know what to tell you.
You're not considering the scenario of a dead battery.
Neither are you. Your talking out your ass at this point.
Since you're already managing charging things, what prevents you to put your controller to charge when you're done playing?
I don't have to manage charging anything. If I neglect it, and it dies, I just swap charged batteries into it. That's the whole point.
You do are managing your AA batteries: you have a dedicated charger for rechargeable AA batteries, and you put yours to charge when you swap them out. That's just your routine so you just don't consider that it's not bothering.
You could just as well put your controller on it's charging stand/plug it when you're done playing. Or plugging it after your gaming session when it notifies you that it's starting to running low.
Yeah, but the AAs will still be around in 10 years. Until we standardize internal power cells and legally mandate companies use them, I don't really care how user-serviceable it is, by the time it actually needs a swap most companies are done selling it anyways and just want you to buy the next thing instead. At best you can get a shady third-party knockoff. Valve is slightly better in this regard, but I don't expect them to still sell batteries 10-15 years from now.
I think most people just use "user-serviceable" as a cope and never actually intend to service it, it just makes them feel better to think they can. They just throw it away and get a shiny new thing when it becomes slightly inconvenient.
I, for one, still don't understand why you want to swap batteries. I'm assuming you're talking about rechargable AA batteries, and not the environmental disaster that are single use batteries. How's taking the batteries out, going to the charging station, swapping the batteries, returning and installing them back into the controller less convenient that just dropping the controller onto the recharging puck when it's not in use?
So you have some special conditions where you can't recharge the controller between sessions?
Because I don't want to be tethered to a cable.
Because then I have to be constantly concerned about the state of the battery at any time. I have enough rechargeable devices to be worried about.
Just have the magnetic puck exactly in the location where you leave your controller when not playing and done, never think about the battery and don't swap things.
So you'd rather swap batteries than put the controller on a charger - which they showed to be crazy easy to do? You're still not making much sense.
LOL I don't know how to be more clear about this. Yes, I would absolutely rather spend 10 seconds popping the battery door off and swapping out the batteries than spend an hour tethered to a cable, and MUCH rather than spending 10 minutes walking around to find a screwdriver to do it....
You're not making much sense. Why wouldn't I want that?
The new Steam Controller's batteries are supposed to last dozens of hours per charge and comes with a charging puck. It doesn't take a genuis to figure out that you just charge it when you're not using it.
And even if that'll wear down the battery faster, it's not enough that you'll go from 35hr of charge to 2hr in the span of a year. Hell, that'd probably take over a decade to happen.
You're getting downvoted because you're being a complete idiot. Quit being defensive about it and just move on.
No, but it does require attention to charge levels and remember to plug it in, which is not something I want to spend my finite mental bandwidth on.
Just because you disagree with me doesn't make me an idiot. You downvoting and acting like a jackass when someone disagrees with you does, though.
Brother, what do you think you're doing here? You cannot accuse me of "being defensive" while you're doing the exact same thing...
Stop it with the ad-hominem attacks.
This is an ad-hominem attack. You're attacking the person instead of the argument.
oh got it, so it's only cool to have a discussion when everyone agrees with you? That's nice.
So why aren't you doing that?
It is, my mental capacity is reserved for more important shit.
As I've said previously, there's no power on my couch, and no way to get it there without creating a trip hazard.