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I find myself in this debate amongst friends and family regularly
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What does it matter if there’s new “anima”. I am me. It doesn’t matter if it’s my original body or another body. It’s whatever is my current frame of reference for the corresponding meat bag that I inhabit.
I really don’t understand the whole “well I died, and this isn’t me”… are you conscious? Lucid? Retain your memories? Then what does it matter?
“Well what if the original is still around or there are two copies?” Again, it doesn’t matter, because at that point they are two physically distinct entities. You only inhabit one of them and the moment you start experiencing different stimuli, you’re two separate people. Granted at that point there are some legal and logistical issues, but it’s not a metaphysical one.
You don't seem to get my point. We're talking about the instance of you reading this comment right now. As in 'you'. That's the anima.
If that anima is destroyed you cease to exist, because you are that anima. The reassembled you will not be 'you', because 'you' were destroyed when you were vaporized. You're not just gonna come back from that. So whether that anima is obliterated or not should matter to you.
Your ability to observe the world is based on the current instance of your whole self in its current configuration, and if that configuration is completely obliterated, you're gone. It doesn't matter if they make a copy of you after - even with the same atoms.
Then by that logic, you die every time you lose consciousness or go to sleep. If I’m in one body, lose consciousness and awaken in another body, it’s really no different because I’m still me.
It doesn’t matter if it’s the same atoms or not, I am me.
Maybe you do, and your existence only lasts a day, and you're just oblivious that you'll disappear when you lay down tonight. Or maybe we can acknowledge that you never fully lose all brain activity when asleep and that that matters.
You are a current instance of you only, held together by temperal and spacial coherence. If either of those then you cease to exist. Ergo, teleportation and time travel both kill you.
I understand your view, I just think i fundamentally disagree with what makes “you” “you”. Good thought problem to chat about
It's one of my favorites to argue on.