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[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 44 points 10 months ago

Hehe. Imagine managing your house in the cloud, and suddenly there is no heating, no light, all the "smart" appliances don't work anymore, and the shower only produces cold water, because the shower thermostat got a "0" as return value when asking for the preferred temperature...

[-] Buelldozer@lemmy.today 18 points 10 months ago

This is why Home Assistant exists.

[-] Treczoks@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Of course. But 99% of the population is either too lazy or to dumb for that, or such problems would not exist.

[-] melfie@lemy.lol 7 points 10 months ago

99% of the population is either too lazy…

Nudges an unopened box of Zigbee door sensors ordered 2 years ago to the back of the shelf.

[-] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 10 months ago

Resist the temptation, hundreds of hours will be lost down that rabbithole after you start.

Though, it is kinda cool stuff, when it's working.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 6 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Don't listen to him. Sure it may take a few hours a day over the course of a month or so to get right, but with the time you'll save from all that automation you'll break even in a few hundred years - and then it's all gravy!

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

what's a door sensor good for?

[-] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 10 months ago

Peace of mind. We have a light that lights up red when a door is open. At the end of the night we get an announcement "all doors closed" - last night I got an announcement telling me one door was open - I went there and sure enough: the magnet side of the sensor had fallen off, door was closed.

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

so you use it for security? wouldn't it make more sense to detect if the locks are locked?

[-] MangoCats@feddit.it 1 points 10 months ago

Depends on your level of trust. I trust the sensor to tell me the door is open/closed (which is a concern to know if people are actually coming in or out - can't do that with the door closed)... I don't trust a smart lock to always lock or unlock when I want it to, and those are the things that will give you a locked/unlocked status report. If anybody really wants to get in/out of our house it doesn't matter if the doors are locked or not, they can always break a window.

[-] Texas_Hangover@lemmy.radio 2 points 10 months ago

Sensing doors.

[-] rmuk@feddit.uk 2 points 10 months ago

When you're not home it becomes part of the alarm system. When you are home it can turn on the lights or heating (or extractor fan in the bathroom) and you can aggregate it with other sensors to measure occupancy to turn those things off again. If you use Home Assistant (or something like it) you can use it to go anything that can be inferred from a door being used.

[-] Miaou@jlai.lu 4 points 10 months ago

99% of the population doesn't have IOT in their houses

[-] Zedd_Prophecy@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

It's not that far off. I woke up to an Internet outage and none of my home lighting routines fired off and I couldn't control my lights via wifi. I got it under control shifting to Bluetooth but for a second it was infuriating.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago

the fact that your home network setup for this relies on an internet connection is baffling

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Games that require persistent internet are baffling to me... I mean the hitman games cannot store your mission achievements offline...

But games are games... if my stove and fridge and showers (fucking showers with wifi?) Need internet connectivity then that is bullshit. They are being too fucking optimistic about everything.

[-] melfie@lemy.lol 3 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Knowing a game is spying on me ruins the fun. My Steam Deck is blocked from the internet for that reason, but a fair number of games on Steam won’t work without connectivity. I seem to remember hearing about some girl who shares a huge collection of games that don’t require connectivity, though.

[-] MangoCats@feddit.it 2 points 10 months ago

some girl who shares a huge collection of games that don’t require connectivity

Dunno her, https://www.mensxp.com/technology/gaming/171080-best-offline-games-without-internet.html

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 2 points 10 months ago

Well it ultimately just keeps score snd achievements... but why the fuck do the achievements need to be cloud based? None of the other games I have are like that.

[-] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Games like that are also baffling to me, thankfully I've not purchased one but I would return it as soon as I discovered the limitation if that were to happen

[-] ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online 1 points 10 months ago

I bought just the hitman game because I am a completionist and I just want that one. I don't care for many other games.

[-] cevn@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Sounds like someone needs HomeAssistant..

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 4 points 10 months ago

Mostly they need to move to Zigbee/Matter or similar.

[-] MangoCats@feddit.it 3 points 10 months ago

I had about a dozen WeMo devices controlling various stuff around the house, they just accumulated over the years. About a year ago, I "got serious" and ripped out all the cloud connected stuff and setup a Zigbee based Home Assistant system. It's about 5x more capable than the old hodge podge of cloud devices, much lower lag, much better management capabilities, and when the internet connection goes down, it still works. The cloud devices would take long coffee breaks about twice a year.

[-] thatonecoder@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 months ago

God, so many things gone wrong there. At least they could use “30” as the default value, right???

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago
[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

That would break physics (assuming you're using Celsius)

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

well considering it controls a heat exchanger device it can only break you

[-] CeeBee_Eh@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

NM, I had it in my head that absolute zero is -253.15, but it's -273.15

[-] nevemsenki@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Hey, I could at least observe superconductors at home!

[-] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 months ago

at least its not -254

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