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[-] LordCrom@lemmy.world 22 points 3 days ago

My PMs are all about time allocation..... yet they fail to understand what research is.

Pm: How long until you finish designing and implementing this thing?

Me: I cant put a time on it, weve never done this before and have no points of reference. So i could figure it out today or a month from today...i cant give you a time because its bever been implemented.

PM: Sighs in dissapproval... ill just say 5 business days. Hows that.

Me: if we are just making up numbers, sure

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago

[-] balance8873@lemmy.myserv.one 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Sounds like you got someone with experience in hardware. They're all about just shitting a date on paper.

The key to good PMs seems to be that they will make up the fake schedule without even talking to you. The schedule will be made up either way, so if they can not bother me that's a ok.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago

My good PMs understood that their role was to attend meetings and create a buffer between myself (who understood what had to be done and was doing most of the work) and the higher-ups. The awful PMs were the ones who thought they were running the show and driving everything.

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago

Our current PM gets involved in projects from day dot. Plans out vague technical ideas, makes up timelines, gets involved in meetings and suggests things to clients, totally rules the roost.

Shame she's completely fucking clueless about any of the actual work, really.

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

I usually preferred male PMs, solely because my contempt for their lack of technical knowledge was never mistaken for chauvinism. Women PMs who stayed in their lane -- or even better were actually technically competent -- were A-OK with me.

[-] rayquetzalcoatl@lemmy.world 0 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Oh yeah, it's difficult to criticise her because it is a bloke criticising a woman and it just comes off poorly, despite my issues with her being absolutely nothing to do with her identity. I think I've had one or two mostly good PMs in maybe eight jobs across my career so far?

[-] ChickenLadyLovesLife@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I used to tell my bosses that everything would take three months. I would then ensure that everything took three months, usually by fucking off for two and a half months and then blasting something out in the last two weeks.