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This show of force, welcomed by some Palestinians after months of lawlessness, could now threaten the fragile ceasefire, especially as all living hostages from Hamas’s 7 October 2023 attack have been released.

The Hamas-run police maintained a high degree of public security after the militants seized power in Gaza 18 years ago while also cracking down on dissent. They largely melted away in recent months as Israeli forces seized large areas of Gaza and targeted Hamas security forces with airstrikes.

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[-] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 42 points 1 week ago

You guys do understand that Israel has been funding ISIS gangs to rape and kill Palestinians? How exactly should the people of Palestine deal with this issue? Ask them politely to leave?

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 16 points 1 week ago

I dunno, but I'm pretty sure the right option is not public executions without due process perpetrated by a bunch of religious extremist nutjobs hours after ironically fascist nutjobs stopped publicly executing civilians without due process only they didn't actually stop.

[-] Not_mikey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 32 points 1 week ago

Due process would be great if there was a functioning court and prison system, but Israel bombed all that

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 7 points 1 week ago

SO just murder people at random? Great!

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 9 points 1 week ago

Lol seriously. It's things like this that put me off this site. It's unhinged. If any other state executed people in the streets without due process these same people would be up in arms, calling them fascists. But Hamas do it and it's all good. I'm convinced some users here see any criticism of Hamas as meaning that it's a show of support for the IDF/Israel.

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 4 points 6 days ago

Factly this. Hamas are, morally, as bad as the IDF, they WANT to do to Israelis what Israel has been doing to Palestinians, they just din't have backing fro the the US and the west so they CAN'T. This is in no way supporting or excusing the IDF, it's just not supporting or excusing Hamas either!

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 24 points 1 week ago

No, fuck anybody who support the state comiting the genocide.

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

Who said I supported any state comitting genocide?

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 14 points 1 week ago

Would you have opposed the execution of Nazi collaborators?

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 1 points 6 days ago

Fucking dumb question

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago

Do you approve of executing accused people without actually proving that they're guilty of being accused of first?

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Netenyahu admitted that he is using gangs that was involved in the stealing of food and helping them in the genocide.

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 4 points 6 days ago

That doesn't mean people should be executed because they're suspected of something, their guilt needs to be proved first.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Hamas are not idiots, you crazy if you think Hamas is going to execute civilians and make the majority of Gazan revolt against them. I can’t tell people who was stripped from all justice for 77 years about how to deal with the collaborators helping the enemy in a genocide. You can ask for holding Hamas accountable once justice is restored, the occupation end and Israeli leaders are held accountable too

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 4 points 6 days ago

Hamas are religious extremist nutjobs who want to do to Israel what the IDF has been doing to Palestine, they just don't have the resources to do so. My heart goes out to the innocent Palestinians caught in the middle but that doesn't excuse or support the awful people fucking them over from both sides!

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Hamas accept the two state solution with pre 67 border. Stop acting like Palestinians including Palestinian extremist are the reason why Israel is occupying them. You just an hypocrite who would use the same rhetoric if you lived during the Nat Turner revolts or revolts against unarmed settlers that stole first nations land .

I support all sides to be held accountable after Palestine is free and yes including Hamas

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

No I'm not and that's not relevant

[-] absentbird@lemmy.world 5 points 1 week ago

Nearly all of those executions were carried out with due process.

I don't support public executions of anyone.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I can’t tell people who was stripped from all justice for 77 years about how to deal with the collaborators helping the enemy in a genocide. You can ask for holding Hamas accountable once justice is restored, the occupation end and Israeli leaders are held accountable too

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 3 points 6 days ago

No. I will not excuse Hamas being fucking awful for one second just because the IDF have been being fucking awful for a long time!

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

You support people who assisted Israel in the genocide. You just an hypocrite

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago
[-] absentbird@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Yeah, it's a fucked situation; personally I don't think masked men shooting blindfolded and bound people in the public square is the best solution, but you're right that it's not my place to decide.

I don't think there's anything wrong with forming opinions and considering alternatives though.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 2 points 6 days ago

Those are the gang that Israel made them escape from jail to assist them in the genocide and if they was jailed back Israel when they resume the genocide will liberate them back

[-] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 21 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Oh, of course, Hamas should just turn them into the police. Silly me. Oi Hamas, this Britbong bloke says you ought to call the fuzz!

[-] neatchee@piefed.social 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Cool story, still extrajudicial slaughter.

EDIT: Oh right, you're from .ml so obviously you support fascism when it's for your team. I should've known.

[-] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 week ago

Fantastic, my dude, good luck defeating the "Hamas fascists", and the 85% of the world population that supports their actions. You've done a great job by sitting on your ass while a genocide is committed so far. Anything else? 🤨🎤🗑️

[-] neatchee@piefed.social 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Can't attack my argument so you attack a fictitious version of me instead. You clearly hold the moral high ground here /s

Also lmao at "85% of the world supports public executions and beheadings" you absolute psychopath xD

[-] mistermodal@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 week ago

Maybe you'll try harder on your next account.

[-] neatchee@piefed.social 2 points 1 week ago

oh no, it's someone with two accounts on two of the largest servers for the two main pieces of software mimicking Reddit! what a scandal!

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

What a fantastically dumb statement. Well done.

[-] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Please. There's never been an anti-colonial movement where collaborators weren't punished harshly. Nelson Mandela's ANC executed collaborators in famously brutal fashion.

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 4 points 1 week ago

And that makes it fine for a bunch of religious extremists to murder people in the streets?

[-] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yes, that's usually how you deal with collaborators and snitches when you're at war with a much larger enemy. I don't see what their religion has to do with it, Hamas is a nationalist anti-colonial movement, not an Islamist one.

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

Their reason for existence is to do to Israel what Israel has been doing to Palestine, they just don;t have the backing and resources to do so. Hamas deserve not one iota more respect or forgiveness than the IDF. The innocent Palestinians getting fucked over six ways from Sunday in the middle are where sympathy goes, don't mistake them for Hamas any more than you mistake the Israeli government for Jews worldwide

[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 days ago

They're the Resistance Française of Gaza, except the (new) NAZIs occupying their land have been there for 7 decades instead of a mere half a decade (plus this time around Britain and the US are part of the Axis alongside the NAZIs), hence their actions are more desperate.

Remembers those WWII films were the Resistance Française, when they caught them dished deadly justice to filthy French Colaborationists that had helped the evil NAZIs either by snitching others to them or even by acting as an auxiliary militia for the occupying NAZI forces? Remember cheering for the Resistance and feeling righteous justice from them dealing with the people who were so evil that they betrayed their own neighbours and even families to the NAZIs?

Morally this is exactly the same situation.

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 1 points 5 days ago

Nazi is not an acronym, it doesn't need to be capitalised like that. Also this isn't a film, this is religious nutjobs murdering people (possibly at random or for dubious reasons) in retaliation for fascist nutjobs murdering people (definitely at random and for dubious reasons).

[-] BCBoy911@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 days ago

Hamas wouldn't need to exist if Israel ended their apartheid and genocide of Palestinians. There is no "both sides" here.

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago
[-] Aceticon@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 week ago

bunch of religious extremists to murder people in the streets

The IDF was involved???

[-] ReCursing@feddit.uk 2 points 6 days ago

What a dumb comment

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