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Rammy.site has been overrun by bigots from exploding-heads they are posting transphobic content accusing LGBT people of being groomers and also posting climate denial. They're likely posting here because it is a small instance with an Admin who is currently MIA and/or not moderating the instance. For this reason it is imperative that it be defederated to stop these bigots from using it to spread their hate to other instances.

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[-] FelipeFelop@discuss.online 18 points 1 year ago

What about the innocent users on the instance? I think there should be a more measured approach to defederation, looking at the bigger picture and what it actually achieves.

Defederating won’t stop them posting it just means you won’t see it. They’ll then be even more effective at spreading their message as they claim they are being silenced.

Many people are proposing a council that any instance would have to be a member of. If they break the rules (eg not moderating the instance) then the council has the power to migrate innocent users.

[-] Decoy321@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I respectfully disagree, Innocent users can simply make accounts on other instances. They're people, they can make their own decisions on what communities to partake in. If they're continuing to enjoy the community as it turns into a giant shit hole, how innocent can they really be?

If the admins in charge of the instance aren't controlling it, then defederation is an appropriate response. This is one of the key benefits of the fediverse, after all.

And yes, defederating won't stop the bigots from posting there, and they'll be correct in claiming they're being "silenced," because that's the point. Our goal is to remove their words from other instances that don't want to hear it. This makes them less effective because less people will see their messages.

Sure, a council would be nice, but that's just extra centralization and beauracracy. It's only as effective as the people involved can make it.

[-] FelipeFelop@discuss.online 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

They can make accounts but Mastodon/Lemmy etc doesn’t offer complete migration yet. So they’ll be losing their posts (and some followers as that doesn’t work fully at the moment).

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