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this post was submitted on 03 Aug 2023
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Insane? $20 to remove ads is insane? That's 2 Starbucks coffees
I dont buy Starbucks, and I won't buy a 20€ Ad-Removal. It is simply to much. 5 would be an instant buy, 10€ may have been ok.
I bought both pro and dev back on the day, and I expected a similar price.
Then don't? You can use the app for free, free as in a free beer
Please don't call those caffeinated milkshakes "coffee". Apart from that, I fully agree.
Two Starbucks coffees are 6 to ~12USD) where I live and I think regionalisation of pricing is the main issue people are raising, not that the app "should be free".
I see both sides. I think his point is that people can easily spend 20 dollars/euros/pounds a week in petty cash on coffee, snacks etc. If you'd half those costs for two weeks you have your sync money.
On the other hand 20 dollars is a steep price when it comes to mobile applications.
Maybe a breakdown of associated costs from LJ would help justify his current pricing. I'm assuming it's based on his experiences with Sync for Reddit.
I was a Sync ultra subscriber and I thought it was a bit steep but on the other hand I loved the app and wanted to support him as I understood that a one time cost of 5 dollars for Sync pro wasn't a realistic pricing model either.
At the end of the day if the Sync for Lemmy ad free cost is realistic for both his costs yet affordable for the average consumer then I don't mind if Ultra is a bit steeper.
You also need to be insane to pay $10 for a coffee.
There are a lot of insane people out there 🤷♂️
The only problem with the prices is it's not yet targeted for regional value. In my country the cost to remove ads is a very fine dinner, not a couple of coffees.
Yeah, Lj said he's taking this week to regionalize pricing
I would say that is still high for ultra. Imo:
Remove ads - $10 lifetime.
Ultra monthly - $1 per month, $10 per year, $30 lifetime.
I would definitely consider lifetime if that was the case. And you would have a ton more users signing up. The number of users should more then make up for the lower prices.
Edit: Question for people downvoting me, do you think I'm being cheap with these prices? $1/month doesn't sound much, but that is the point. It is still $12/year and the amount of users would more then make up for it.
I think the problem with comparing pricing on Lemmy with comparing pricing on Reddit is the scale of numbers. Reddit love it or hate it, had a much greater potential of paid users. When you have to make similar (or at least sustainable) income from a smaller pool of users, prices are going to reflect that (at least short term).
Also when you math it out pricing isn't all that crazy:
$20 ad free lifetime = ~$1.70 USD/mo for 1yr = ~$0.06 USD/per day for a year
$100 Ultra = ~$8.34 USD/mo for 1yr - ~$4.17 USD/mo for 2yrs = ~$0.27 USD/per day for a year = ~$0.14/per day for 2yrs
People are comparing very short timescales for ad removal. Lots of 1 week/2 week comparisons.
I hope to have this app for 4 years, like I had for Reddit. That's $5 per year or 10 cents per week.
Actually, I've paid for 1 month of Ultra to see if Lemmy is worth staying on and if LJ updates Sync, but I don't mind the idea of $20 for a long-time payoff