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submitted 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) by Quill7513@slrpnk.net to c/yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com

I was just perusing the modlog when I noticed something interesting. Apparently posting news about Gaza/Palestine is not allowed on !worldnews@sh.itjust.works. I decided to check the side bar and didn't see anything. The only pinned post also does not indicate that this is not allowed

edit: the mod in question is @Eyekaytee@aussie.zone . sorry for not originally tagging. i hadn't realized it was a rule that this must be done. i thought it seemed inappropriate since i was trying to initiate a conversation about a community's rules and culture rather than start drama about an individual

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[-] goat@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

There are communists within !meanwhileongrad@sh.itjust.works and the community itself allows communists and communist theory. It's a diverse community where people are free to discuss different topics, unlike your spaces, which regularly censor dissent and criticism.

And you are not a communist, Cowbee, you're a tankie, you've said so yourself.

But tell me, where is this supposed dogwhistling, where is this defence of Israel's actions, where is this transphobia? I'll look into it for you

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The community of MWoG exists purely to attack communists. I have always said I'm a communist, you can read the screengrab yourself to see:

In that "tankie" is just a pejorative for a communist, yes. I'm a Marxist-Leninist, and I uphold AES as legitimate.

Workers of the world, unite! ☭

For those who don't know what a "tankie" is, it's essentially a pejorative for "communist." I recommend the Prolewiki article on "Tankies," as well as Nia Frome's essay "Tankies."

As for transphobia, here's your server admin pushing transphobic conspiracy theories in your comm:

What you’re referring to is quite frustrating, I agree. Even more concerning is that it’s such an obvious vector for foreign actors to leverage in an attempt to weaken the geopolitical dominance of the Western world. If Russia and China aren’t running psyops and trying to exacerbate the obvious political divide within western nations by utilizing transgender ideology as a wedge topic, they’re not even trying. It’s just such an obvious vulnerability that it beggars belief to think they wouldn’t be trying to fan those flames as much as possible.

As for Zionism, here are your own posts and comments:

[-] goat@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

You're in a tankie instance, Cowbee; you hang out with tankies and repeat tankie talking points. You are a tankie and you're not fooling anyone with your disingenuous fantasies about being a moralist, if you were, prove it now by criticising the Russian government, or better yet, Chinese imperialism.

You won't, because you are a tankie.

As for Imaqtpie, I do not approve of him. I have quite the turbulent history with him.

I've also been more supportive of trans-rights and gender recognition than you have, Cowbee.

Oh, and even more, the lemmy developers, admins of the instance you use, lemmy.ml, are also transphobic, which is what imaqtpie was agreeing with, funnily enough.

That didn't work out too well for you lol

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 14 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

"Tankie" is just a pejorative for communist, it isn't an ideology. Call me "tankie" all you want, but at the end of the day I read Marxist-Leninist theory and volunteer for a Marxist-Leninist org that has stances in line with the rest of Marxist-Leninist organizations. You can't claim to not be an anti-communist, you maintain an anti-communist comm and oppose communism.

Secondly, showing a handful of times you've spoken about sex and gender doesn't mean you're more supportive, especially since I have already explained that I disagree firmly with Nutomic:

Communists tend to be the most supportive of trans liberation, I recommend reading Feinberg's Trans Liberation: Beyond Pink or Blue as well as Nia Frome's The Problem of Recognition in Transitional States, or Sympathy for the Monster. None of this is to defend Nutomic's views as stated here, I firmly disagree with them. However, the idea that communists are supposed to be transphobic is just not true, generally. Cuba even has one of the world's most progressive family codes, and the GDR was one of the world's most progressive states towards the end of its existence. Marxism provides a framework that enables liberation of all oppressed peoples.

The Russian government is a homophobic dictatorship of capital. China isn't imperialist, it doesn't run its economy based on international plunder, export of capital, nor is it under the control of a financial oligarchy.

[-] goat@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Everyone has read theory, Cowbee, you're not a special sort for reading theory. Though, since you're such an expert in it, enlighten me, what were Marx's quotes on Africans and Jews?

cw: antisemitic and racist slurshttps://nationalinterest.org/blog/reboot/its-time-talk-about-karl-marxs-racism-181292

And it's nice you firmly disagree, very neolib of you, writing a firmly worded letter to your master, well done. Here I was thinking that a tankie such as yourself would put a bit of action and elbow-grease into your morals and completely leave lemmy.ml for the developer's transphobia. Foolish of me.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

I never claimed to be an expert in theory, you have to force words into my mouth to craft a narrative that doesn't exist. You need so very badly for me to be the strawman you've created of me, because you can't actually make any coherent points.

Secondly, Marx was no racist, nor was he anti-semetic. He himself was Jewish, and attacked the anti-semetic hit-piece The Jewish Question. Marx advocated for the liberation of all peoples, linking out of context quotes collected by a far-right anti-communist org doesn't help you beat the cryptofascist allegations.

As for leaving Lemmy.ml, it's still useful for talking about theory, and the userbase is very pro-LGBTQ (unlike sh.itjust.works), and I speak far more frequently on the importance of trans rights. Abandoning a space because one of the admins is reactionary just lets the entire narrative there be guided by that.

[-] goat@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago

But you use the 'I've read a lot of theory' excuse all the time as an attempt to appear as an authority.

Secondly, Marx was no racist, nor was he anti-semetic.

If you use racist and antisemitic slurs, then you're a racist and an antisemite.

Though hey! This will be a golden opportunity for you. Let's talk about how Russia and China treats its LGBTQI (you forgot the I) population.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

I have read theory, yes, and I generally know what I'm talking about when it comes to subjects I have read about. I'm not an expert, and have never claimed to be. I think based on what I have read, I can pretty easily see where people go wrong, or haven't read the subject.

As for Marx, again, out of context quotations where he is responding to someone using said slurs, or when he is using language common to the time in an attempt to combat racism, is entirely different from the extremely prevalent anti-semetism and racism of the time. You linked a far-right anti-communist article deliberately written to portray something against the reality of the situation, which is par for the course for you.

As for not including the I, you didn't include the A, or the + either. I used LGBTQ as shorthand, but obviously support LGBTQIA+, this is extremely bad-faith and you know it. I already said Russia is homopbobic, China is improving but has a long way to go.

[-] goat@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

So why are you in support of Russia and China when both are grossly homophobic and hostile to being queer?

Oh, and that's not even mentioning North Korea with it's caste system.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 7 points 1 week ago

I already explained, the extent of my support for Russia lies in its opposition to western imperialism, and the fact that it has been forced into trade with socialist countries, as well as the rising leftist support that opposes the current nationalist leadership. I don't support their homophobia, capitalism, etc. As for China, I already stated that they have made decent progress, and are regularly improving on this respect. What you're doing is "rainbow imperialism," appropriation of progressive movements in order to support the far worse outcome for queer folks, ie a return to the 90s era of economic destitution for Russia or China being forced into capitulating to western imperialism. The DPRK doesn't have a caste system, this is nonsense.

[-] princessnorah 13 points 1 week ago

Firstly, stop using my fucking community as a bludgeon against people you don't like.
Secondly, this is transphobic you numbskull.
Thirdly, y'all are acting like fucking children, Grow Up!

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 1 week ago

Holy shit, goat edited the link you gave. Like 3 hours ago they edited it, which is after you linked it, and months after they posted it. They removed your evidence.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Incredible, Sartre really didn't miss with that quote.

[-] goat@lemmy.zip 3 points 1 week ago
[-] princessnorah 11 points 1 week ago
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[-] princessnorah 8 points 1 week ago

That doesn't make your comment less transphobic, and it doesn't make you and @Cowbee@lemmy.ml any less juvenile for bickering like this on an unrelated post.

[-] goat@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

ah, i apologise. that wasn't my intention with my comment.

my intention was that the bill would separate the definitions to better define discrimination and make it more suited to diverse people

[-] princessnorah 10 points 1 week ago

Then what was your intention in using transphobia as a weapon against someone you dislike. It wasn't like you had a genuine attempt at educating someone. You were just using it as a tool to win an argument. THAT is also tranphobia bestie.

[-] goat@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

you can't use logic with extremists, as their positions aren't based on logic

my intention was to highlight hypocrisy, pointing out that the context for imaqtpie's transphobia was him agreeing with Nutomic's transphobia

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

And I agree with neither of them, and you know that, yet you tried to use it as an argument against me. imaqtpie posted in your comm and you didn't remove it.

[-] goat@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Ah, ah, you tried to use imaqtpie's transphobia as an argument against me. I responded in kind. I can't remove admin comments, and I told him to stop commenting and posting in my community.

Much more than you have done to Nutomic

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

You said you didn't see transphobia in your comm, and I linked you a highly upvoted transphobic comment. Even if you disagree, others clearly agreed in your comm. You cultivated that.

As for me, I've called out Nutomic already, numerous times. I mod no comms on Lemmy.ml.

[-] goat@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

And I can't remove admin comments and responded to him in kind already.

That's more than what you've done.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

No, it isn't more than I've done, again I've called nutomic and imaqtpie out and you've fostered a comm where transphobia is upvoted regularly.

[-] goat@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 week ago

Regularly, you say? Well, where is it? I'll nip it in the bud right now if it exists

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 week ago

Why do you believe transphobia is highly upvoted in your comm?

[-] princessnorah 6 points 1 week ago

There are other ways to call him out than using my community as your weapon.

[-] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 1 week ago

They'll use communities to explain why someone is bad but still copies the attacks on them.

[-] Samskara@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 week ago
[-] goat@lemmy.zip 1 points 1 week ago

thank you pal i love you

[-] starelfsc2@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 week ago

I don't know why I'm responding because I feel you act in extremely bad faith. MoG is a terrible comm, and I think that is why you are seeing transphobia upvoted. I think people see "China bad lol" and are frothing at the mouth upvoting it before even considering wtf he said after it. To say that's the ENTIRE INSTANCE is so extremely bad faith, or maybe you truly believe that because you haven't seen any of the normal people on the instance.

Also bad faith to say "tankie" = communist/socialist. That wiki page is also bad faith, unless I have just somehow managed to see it used differently 100/100 times I've seen it used as a perjorative. Tankie implies defending Russia and China/ Soviet Union heavily, NOT just being a communist/socialist. Even the Wikipedia page says this... You can disagree but actually ask people if that's what they mean. If someone says the wikipedia definition and you interpret it as something else without clarifying, you are very likely misinterpreting them. Very bad faith to say "it's just being communist/socialist bro they just hate good ideologies bro" like cmon be an adult. "Tankie" does not just mean communist. Disgraceful misinforming people just to try and win an argument.

[-] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 week ago

To clarify, I stated that the instance is a Nazi bar, as in there are some massive zionists, fascists, etc. allowed to roam freely, but that this doesn't describe the entire instance:

The instance is a Nazi bar, the two biggest comms are circlejerks for anti-communism and pro-western imperialism. There are some good users on occasion, but the instance itself is very reactionary.

Secondly, the word "tankie" in its social use is as an anti-communist pejorative. It's a strawman with ready-made characteristics built up by anti-communists to avoid actually having to address the arguments of communists. The wikipedia page isn't maintained by a communist, it's maintained primarily by liberals, they aren't looking at it from the communist perspective.

Neither link I sourced was bad-faith, either, unless you mean the communist perspective on a pejorative for communists is inherently bad-faith. It doesn't matter what an individual specifically means by using "tankie," in its social practice it just means "communist, but I don't like it."

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