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I cant believe how many time I have to say "just because I was hungry yesterday doesn't mean you sould starve tomorrow." That line was fundamental in my upbringing, it's so simple and do correct and now,no one understands this very basic concept for children
I think there are three problems with loan forgiveness:
How? "Too big to fail" is bad because companies have multiple other methods of dealing with debt, like selling assets and declaring bankruptcy. Student loans can't be discharged via bankruptcy, and most people with loans don't have enough assets to cover their loans.
My loans were discharged under Biden, but that's because the government fucked me over on the PSLF and changed their mind after I'd done the time doing palliative care for developmentally disabled adults.
You want to talk about sacrifice? I did a decade of dealing with literal feces because I was providing care to autistic people that had developed dementia, and I was only getting a couple bucks more than minimum wage. The payoff was supposed to be student loan forgiveness, but the fucking government went back on their word, and now Biden's the bad guy for doing what was originally promised? C'mon.
Too big to fail means that the failure of a business or industry would take the country down with it. The college industry (as it's more an industry than anything else) has effectively become "too big to fail". But what's so insidious about it is that rather than all these schools carrying the debt, they've literally pushed it onto the students.
Forgiving student loans without a plan is a bailout for colleges and only accelerates the broken system.
As for screwing people over with changes to forgiveness plans (or making them too rigid in structure) is an example of something that needs to be fixed because it's clearly not working.
This is literally the guy in the OP. For a closer comparison, this is like saying "you're freeing all slaves? What about people like me who bought their own freedom? We made so many sacrifices to do it and now we're just being shafted?!"
A good thing happening to me is not a bad thing happening to you and vice versa.
That's such a cheap shot at my point.
My point is don't forgive loans if you haven't fixed the problem because all your doing then is perpetuating the broken system and burdening everyone with student debt.
So what? Would someone who chose to have unprotected sex not deserve to have their AIDS cured? It's completely messed up that it's even necessary to take on backbreaking debt to get higher education—to many people their only shot at social mobility. It's technically a choice, yes, but the fact that anyone even needs to make that choice is a travesty. Telling someone "take on tens of thousands (possibly hundreds of thousands after interests) of dollars or lock yourself out of most social mobility" is messed up no matter what they choose, but partial justice is better than total injustice.
That's how society works. You want others to help you you have to help them. This is no difference than child tax credits, food stamps or the myriad of other programs the government runs with the taxes of people who won't necessarily benefit from them.
Forgiving current debt and preventing future debt are completely unrelated positions. Current debt needs to be forgiven and future debt needs to be prevented, but there's no reason to lock one of these behind the other. The problem is being perpetuated either way, just with more human suffering on one side.
What does "sound stave" mean?
"Should starve" I don't know what happened there
I might be wrong here, but it looks like autocorrect got them and it’s supposed to be ‘should starve’.