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https://www.france24.com/en/live-news/20231215-israel-social-security-data-reveals-true-picture-of-oct-7-deaths

The final death toll from the attack is now thought to be 695 Israeli civilians, including 36 children, as well as 373 security forces and 71 foreigners, giving a total of 1,139.

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[-] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 3 points 4 days ago

It doesn't look like the article you shared is including hostages who have since died. As far as I can tell, there are 59 confirmed dead hostages and Israeli intelligence expects the majority of the unreleased 48 to be dead as well. (Even if only 3 are, that would satisfy the headline.)

Including those (seems pretty weird to not include them) adds up to over 1,200.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 4 days ago

Those were killed by Israel themselves on an entirely different date. With your logic you can count everything in entirely different ways.

[-] MyBrainHurts@piefed.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Those were killed by Israel themselves on an entirely different date.

This is an absolutely bananas rationalization!

Say ICE kidnaps a pair of kids in the morning. In the afternoon, the distraught parents see them in a detention van and try to get them back. In the commotion, one of the kids dies.

Now, in your opinion, that kid didn't die because of the ICE raid that morning?

Really just seems like you're trying to downplay October 7 to push your narrative, which is more than a little funny given the community.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

It might be difficult to understand but if they die on any day besides october 7 then they didn't die on october 7.

And if the IDF killed them then it's not the Hamas attack which killed them.

Really just seems like you’re trying to downplay October 7 to push your narrative, which is more than a little funny given the community.

Bye

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