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[-] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 week ago

Yep. Also, famously, a statistics/psychology professor was once quoted as saying the only reason you don't find a statistically significant difference is because we're "too damn lazy to drag enough people in." The larger the sample size, the less of a difference is needed to hit that 5% mark. So if you aren't "lazy," you can just add more folks to your study and be more likely to find a 'significant difference' that you can then publish.

My statistics professor would rerun experiments that hit the 5% (p<0.05) mark and need it less than a 0.001 or 0.005 just to waggle his dick at others, saying his findings were a lot more reliable than theirs.

[-] troed@fedia.io 2 points 1 week ago

I must confess to not understanding your anecdote here. Pure chance might give you a p<0.05 when your sample size is low - but that disappears as the sample size grows larger.

[-] burntbacon@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 1 week ago

I don't want to dig out the math figures, because god knows they're hard enough to scribble freehand, but as you add more samples, the difference between your null hypothesis and sample average shrinks in regards to what establishes a p<0.05. Let's just use not-real numbers: if a sample of 100 people has a difference of 5 units from the null hypothesis, and has a p value of 0.1, a sample of 10,000 with a difference of .1 unit might have a p value of 0.02. In the quote (that I can't seem to find now), the essential wisdom to take is that if you dragged in enough samples, you could find a statistically significant difference because your null hypothesis would never be exact, so even the smallest of differences would generate a low p-value. It's why whenever you see a p-value, you should definitely see an effect size estimate nearby, such as cohen's D.

Here's a paper outlining some of this in much better words than I have.

[-] troed@fedia.io 1 points 1 week ago

Thank you for the link - that's a very interesting paper. I've taken Statistics twice (two different engineering degrees) and still need to reread that a few times to "get it"!

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