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[-] trailee@sh.itjust.works 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Of course I don’t have any concrete proof.

serious discussion about security merits.

Those two don’t go together, bud.

It just comes down to if you trust the devs and those doing the hosting.

Ok so let’s talk about “ex-Meta” Brian Acton walking away from nearly a billion dollars due to his moral stance on private communication. Or Meredith Whittaker’s determination to pioneer a tech business model other than surveillance capitalism.

You’re absolutely right that it comes down to trusting the devs, which is why WhatsApp is a nonstarter even though it uses Signal’s E2EE. Europe’s chat control proposal doesn’t need to break E2EE, it just needs to demand that the messaging client app scans all content locally before encrypting and has a way to tattle. Meta could also be scanning everything you type into WhatsApp and feeding it into a local AI advertising interests summarizer or whatever else, and still claim E2EE. The open source client is far more important than an open source server when there’s proper E2EE.

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