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[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 15 points 5 days ago

What do the pathologically greedy do in a socialist or communist system? They find a way to gain power except they have almost no competition.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 23 points 5 days ago

They find a way to gain power

And where's your proof?

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 14 points 5 days ago
[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 12 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I didn’t need to do research because i already knew about these successful societies.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rainbow_Family

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Autonomous_Administration_of_North_and_East_Syria

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin_Oaks_Community,_Virginia

My guess is you where trying to refere to the ridiculous attempts by the soviet union which to my understanding where designed to fail to set an example. (Look it up)

The core issue is that a nation has a centralized government that is always opposes to disbanding itself. Lenins vanguard party was a fascist takeover of marxist decentralized principles. (look it up)

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

You didn't list any socialist societies. The first is a group of people who go camping annually together then go back to their real lives(in a capitalist society). Second is an authoritarian society which bans independent media and the third is another group where you vacation in this society until you get tired of it and just leave to your real life so that another can join(they also ban media).

Unless banning types of media is ok now for socialist societies?

None of them are an actual socialist nation. I wouldn't be thinking of the Soviets, no. There was nothing socialist about them other than an initial. I wasn't hinking of any in particular because there are not any. I wish there were and I hope for one but there isn't one yet.

[-] webghost0101@sopuli.xyz 5 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I have no contacts within the latest two but there are absolutely people in the rainbow family who live like that all year round with their entire family.

They are nomadic, have no homeland. There is no leadership, no scarcity (they often have leftovers they don’t know what to do with) its pure anarchistic communism.

Also dont trust to much from what you see online, these communities are aware bad actors and governments dislike them. You need to be invited for actual whereabouts.

This may be a possible reason why the syrian group may democratically ellect against media presence. What i found most interesting about them is that its one of the first Islamic communities i heard of that explicitly calls for equal gender rights.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 5 days ago

Which parts of history, exactly?

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago

The parts where legitimate attempts at a socialist society has been attempted anywhere in the world...of which all failed for human dickish reasons.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 days ago

legitimate attempts at a socialist society

And where would those be?

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

I will give you the opportunity to search for those instances yourself.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 5 days ago

No - you will point out these (supposed) "legitimate attempts at a socialist society" you speak of.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

No, you will search for them.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 5 days ago

Ie, you're talking out of your ass.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

I could very well be. If only there was a way for you to do your own research on attempts at creating a true socialist society at the national level. Seems pretty important to the point of this thread and something you would not want to leave to a stranger who might talk out of his ass.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 16 points 5 days ago

I could very well be.

No - it's established. You don't have a damn clue what you are talking about - and now you're backpedalling.

[-] nexguy@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Then I recommend the you do NOT search for attempts at creating a socialist society. You get to keep not knowing and I don't have to do a 2 minute search for you. It's a win-win.

The point of asking for examples is to make sure that you yourself know about the talking points you're spewing.

[-] masquenox@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 4 days ago

Put up or shut up.

[-] Prunebutt@slrpnk.net 11 points 4 days ago

How did the anarchist collectives "[fail] for human dickish reasons"? Is outside pressure from fascists a problem inherent to socialism?

[-] SparroHawc@lemmy.zip 3 points 4 days ago

Just downvote the sea lion and move on.

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