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[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

So you are only complaining that accounts are not centralized? The entire Fediverse works like that and I don't really see an issue with that.

And why would a host change the location for their "Classified site for Berlin" instance? That doesn't make any sense, since it is location specific by design.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 6 points 10 months ago

No, I'm complaining that the server determines a user and items location.

You don't need centralization for that. If I'm making a post, I should be able to set the location for the item at that point - this information is federated, so then the user's server is irrelevant, only the location the user sets is relevant.

That is what makes this a bad design. It has nothing to do with centralization.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Why is it bad design that you have a location specific page where you post location specific classified ads? Thats how all of them work.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 6 points 10 months ago

Because the ability to post is locked to a server's region.

As you said, I can't go in and browse the United States listings. Why? What technical reason is there to prevent me, as a user, from wanting to join?

NOT as an admin. As a user.

Lets think of this like mastodon and hashtags for a second. If the hashtag were a location, why would I need to join aus.social to see the hashtag location for Australia? Why would I need to join mstdn.ca to see the hashtags for Canada?

I think the flohmarkt design inherently works the opposite of other federated designs. It is limiting by design, limiting server use by region, rather than what a user is choosing to follow.

I'm concerned I'm not explaining something properly, so if there is a part that isn't making sense to you, let me know.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago

Why would a classified site for Berlin allow you to post ads for Chicago? Just use a classifed site for Chicago 🤷

And no, the Federation model of Flohmarkt is like Mastodon, Lemmy is the odd one out, but also Lemmy does not allow starting communities on other servers. You need a local account for that.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 3 points 10 months ago

Why would a classified site for Berlin allow you to post ads for Chicago? Just use a classifed site for Chicago 🤷

Because the same user regularly travels to both. A separate post would be absolutely fine, but I shouldn't need an entirely different site for that. Its a listing.

And no, the Federation model of Flohmarkt is like Mastodon, Lemmy is the odd one out, but also Lemmy does not allow starting communities on other servers. You need a local account for that.

I do not need to create an account on a different server to post on that server.

I only need the one account. I am not blocked from posting in lemmy.ca because I live in the US, I'm not blocked from posting in midwest.social because I don't live in the midwest.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago

Yes you need an account from the specific Mastodon instance to post on that Mastodon instance.

But anyways, that is besides the point. A classified listing is by design lioation specific. All your argument seems to boil down to is that you are annoyed that you don't have centralized accounts to log into different classified pages 🤷

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 2 points 10 months ago

Yes you need an account from the specific Mastodon instance to post on that Mastodon instance.

That was a Lemmy comment, but my mastadon post goes to all mastodon instances, regardless of region. Filtering or subscription is by hashtag or user. I do not get region-locked by my server to make a post, to read a post, to interact with a post.

But anyways, that is besides the point. A classified listing is by design lioation specific. All your argument seems to boil down to is that you are annoyed that you don’t have centralized accounts to log into different classified pages 🤷

No, that is not my complaint.

I, as a user, cannot use this solution. I have no way to use it, as a user, because the server determines region, not the user. I, as a user, have no way to interact with flohmarkt or my local or regional community, for reasons of a design decision that is not relevant in any way to a user or a listing.

I, as a user, can't use flohmarkt, because the design of it does not allow me to. An arbitrary, unnecessary, forced limitation. Simple as that.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago

You are on anarchist.nexus and complain about self-inflicted / self-lerned helplessness? Are you serious? What do you think people that run your instance did? They took matters into their own hands and set it up. The same is true for Flohmarkt.

[-] curbstickle@anarchist.nexus 2 points 10 months ago

So what I'm reading is basically:

All the people who would like to use flohmarkt but can't today can shut up or set up a server.

That is a really shitty answer.

[-] poVoq@slrpnk.net 2 points 10 months ago

No, it is shitty that you expect others to do this work for you.

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