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We need to set the ground work now before google closes up android
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Now, why not just fork AOSP a la grapheneos?
Why we always have to invent something new? Why not just take the fork in the road and go build something better from it?
Thinking modern os, not even google has been able to do it (fuchsia).
Asking the question I was wondering about too. If Google wants to kill AOSP eventually that's all fine and dandy but that doesn't stop people from forking it and continuing its development. And that way, at least, we don't end up with another Windows Phone conundrum where the OS is perfectly fine but will eventually die due to lack of app compatibility (although Windows Phone's demise was helped by some truly knuckleheaded executive decisions too to be fair).
Or, failing this, all Linux phones need a flawless Android emulation layer similar to Proton for Windows games, because I am afraid it will be a significantly steep uphill battle otherwise.
We have already tons of apps for Linux.. And soo many "apps” are already just fancy websites in a container..
FirefoxOS for phones was such a great idea
I am so sad it did mot take off, was a great concept
Tonns of apps for linux are made with PC UX in mind and thus completely unusable on the phone.
I disagree
I have a pinePhone pro, and I love using desktop UI Apps on it. But it is too slow and has too less battery for me to be usable
But I love high DPI on small screen without Zoom
I must confess, that I currently use an iPhone as daily driver, but to come back to the topic, I have a 12mini and my browser is set to 50% all the time.
Someone is trying to revive FirefoxOS: https://capyloon.org/
(and it kinda survives to this day as KaiOS on feature phones).
@poVoq @Petter1 Rather someone was trying until 2023 looking at their repos.
I’ll undust my pinePhone pro and flash it on it
🤔 maybe even worth filming it for peertube
I know most apps are just webview2 these days, but since more and more companies are forcing their consumers to use apps by either gimping their websites outright or forcing users to use 2FA based on their own app, app support is vital for any mobile platform.
I speak from experience - I kept using my Nokia Lumia 1020 Windows Phone until the bitter end, which came when the government ID app stopped being supported on my device and I had to switch to keep being able to connect to the vast majority of services (Sweden's BankID system is both a blessing and a curse this way).
emulation layer is the way to go IMO, best of all the worlds.
Absolutely 100% agree. Rosetta and Proton are great examples of how native-like emulation can be implemented to help support platform transitions.
best part is that it's also inherently a way to preserve old software, it's way easier to get ancient windows games running in proton than it is on actual native windows.
Google is becoming more and more a pain the as releasing AOSP. And they're migrating towards more and more proprietary. I think the worry here is having the work power to keep it updated and maintained.
I'm guessing the idea is that with this effort, it makes more sense to migrate to Linux phones instead.
Pretty much. Google does a lot of heavy lifting, and they have a lot more pull with companies, which is why Android works now.
It really is too bad that Google didn’t have to move Android to the Linux Foundation and make it a true community project.
Because we want general computation machines, not walled gardens.
IMO one of the greatest parts of a pure linux phone is that nothing is new. It runs the same apps as my desktop and works in the same way, so I don't have to learn two sets of apps. Other than stuff like call management and Phosh, the desktop environment I use that's tailored for small screens, I run all pre-existing software like systemd, wayland, firefox, nautilus, etc. IMO the biggest hurdle is hardware support, since only a few phones are able to run pure linux, and even on those few, there are still many parts of the hardware that are not supported.