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Microsoft doing shady Microsoft stuff again
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this post was submitted on 25 Sep 2025
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https://radar.cloudflare.com/reports/browser-market-share-2025-q1
Check "Market Share by OS" and switch it to Windows. Every one of those 67.359% of people who is using Chrome had it downloaded to their computer on purpose instead of just clicking "Internet" and getting Edge. Obviously they feel strongly enough to do that, so I don't see how they would be amenable to losing all their bookmarks and settings and just going with Edge when one day their OS tries to trick them into it.
many of those chrome 'users' got there after clicking on one of google's many somewhat misleading 'advertisements' or 'notices' or 'warnings'
Citation: It is known
How many of them? How do you know?
"Many. It is known."
I also like how you put "users" in quotes for some reason. Anyway, good talk.
I can assure you that the vast majority of users in my footprint, about 600 of them, use Chrome because we set it as default. Many people have no idea the difference between Chrome and edge. I am currently sitting at a desk where the user has opened Chrome, but it is not default.
That's why I used the specific phrasing "had it downloaded to their computer" instead of claiming that they were the ones to do it. You'll notice that those users in your footprint also fall into a category of people which this won't do a damn thing to influence.
Yes, they will.
I think you're overestimating the degree to which the majority of users are willing to inconvenience themselves over a browser. If Microsoft announced tomorrow that Windows no longer supported any browser other than edge you wouldn't see a mass migration to Linux. Instead you would see a healthy uptick in complaints about edge.
Maybe not mass migration, but that alone would probably add another percentage point or so to Linux's market share, while others would just set about breaking the limitation/working around it within probably hours.
Unless enterprise is part of the equation. All those people are simply stuck using whatever thier company uses. Which is usually Edge and Chrome. With no option to change.
Most workplaces I've been at let me pick, but one did not let me use Firefox (only Chrome or Safari).
Weirdly one place didn't block things but Brave wouldn't install because the installer was actually a downloader and I couldn't set it to use the corporate proxy. (Also don't hate me, I don't use Brave anymore and am not a fan, this was back in 2019.)
Genuine question. Why don't you use Brave anymore? I'm not a fan of edge or Chrome and am happy with Brave. Always open to ideas through.
Sure! Happy to talk about it. I was never a fan of the crypto but you can disable it so that's not my problem. My problem is that a while back they added affiliate information to links you clicked so that they got money. To me, something a browser should do is go to links you click on as you click on them and not mess with them (apart from privacy/security things). It's a huge loss of trust.
Apart from that, I view all Chromium based browsers negatively nowadays because I don't want to give Google de facto control of web standards. Chromium has a monopoly on browsers, basically. Especially since even Microsoft Edge is Chromium based now. The ad blocking changes were part of this, but just in general. I don't think one company should just be able to make a change and have everyone passively adopt it because they're downstream consumers of it. And yes, Brave is Chromium based.
Hi thanks for that. I now that Brave is Chromium based I did not know that it had affiliates so that is something to think about. My lap top is about to go obsolete due to windows 11 so am going to move to Linux in the very near future so I will think I will look around for a new browser at the same time. Again, thank for your reply.