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submitted 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) by NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org to c/asklemmy@lemmy.world

They shouldn't be able to do that!

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[-] missingno@fedia.io 61 points 1 month ago

That style of blocking makes sense for more personal social media, but I don’t think it fits a public forum like the Threadiverse. On Reddit, bad actors were able to weaponize blocking to hide from anyone who would disagree with them, anyone who would push back against misinformation. That did a lot more harm than good.

Everything you post here is public, and you should expect that anyone can see it, even people you do not like. If you don't want to see someone you don't like, that's what blocking is for, but you shouldn't expect to be able control who can see your posts when they're all public to begin with.

If something is so sensitive that you think you need to hide it from someone you don't like, then this probably isn't the platform to post it on at all.

[-] Grimy@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Some users would write their reply and then quickly block the other person so their points couldn't be contested.

[-] SkyeStarfall 3 points 1 month ago

This has happened to me multiple times. And yes, I did consider it to be a serious issue. It's too abusive of a feature

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 month ago

I'd call what you're describing "muting" rather than blocking.

I used to agree with you, but then I spoke with some people from persecuted minorities, and this style of blocking just gives power to their abusers rather than keeping their communities and themselves safe.

Yes they can get a new account, but it's another hurdle, and if we erect enough hurdles then it'll catch enough of them. Defense in depth.

[-] missingno@fedia.io 10 points 1 month ago

We've seen the problems with Reddit's style of blocking already.

If someone's being truly abusive, that's something you should report to moderators or instance admins.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

I agree it has problems, but that doesn't mean that anything is better.

Reporting someone is good, but isn't that subject to the exact same reasons why "it won't work"? If reddit style blocking someone isn't effective anyways, why would admin bans be effective?
This assumes that admins and mods even have the capacity to deal with all this shit, which seems to be very uncertain.

[-] missingno@fedia.io 9 points 1 month ago

I don't understand what you mean. Moderator bans do work, that's a moderator's job.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 month ago

a common response I've been getting is "blocking doesn't work, they just need to make a new account"
but then they say "if its really a problem, then they just need to report the user"
but if making a new account would defeat blocking, then making a new account would defeat reporting a user. its either effective in both places or neither place.

[-] missingno@fedia.io 6 points 1 month ago

That isn't what I said. You're replying to me to talk about somebody else's argument, while completely ignoring mine.

[-] PeriodicallyPedantic@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 month ago

sorry i was getting it mixed up, i've had a very similar conversations a few times and that rebuttal came up multiple times.

mods and admins are overworked, and they can't always be expected to keep up to date with dogwhistles along with everything else they have to manage. besides, harassment doesn't always appear to break ToS - starting rumours and spreading lies about someone can be very difficult to prove to a mod, but can have huge repercussions in some communities.
and besides, it can take a while before mods/admins are able to take action.

IMO I think a few things should exist.

I should be able to prevent someone from replying to my content even if I can't prevent them from seeing it.
Additionally, I think there should be a best effort to make invite-only/private communities. I know that the fediverse makes this technically difficult, but having something is better than having nothing.

[-] Darleys_Brew@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 month ago

Thank you for explaining to me why I didn’t like blocking but couldn’t express why.

[-] NichEherVielleicht@feddit.org 5 points 1 month ago

Two sides of the medal..

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