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[-] MurrayL@lemmy.world 40 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The problem is the arms race escalates forever - cheat developers will just regroup, analyse what the new VAC is doing, and start finding new exploits.

Not saying Valve should just give up; quite the opposite. The war never ends.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

That’s not the problem. The problem is people hacking software.

If we are talking about the software. The problem is the hacking of that software. I replied to a comment about the software.

The arms race is not the problem. Anti-cheat didn’t come first. The hacking of software did.

[-] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 81 points 1 month ago

That’s not the problem. Hacking software rules. The problem is griefing shitheads who ruin games for other people.

I regularly hack single player games to cheat especially after I have a “legit” run and want to try playing op or if it’s just a game I’m not super invested in the mechanics of and want to power through the story. Who gives a shit if I do this? 20-30 years ago this was a cheat code or a game genie thing. Now it’s “bad”, which I get if it’s multiplayer and I’m ruining balance (unless literally the only multiplayer aspect is a meaningless leaderboard), or it’s still there but it’s monetized and that’s just scumbag shit

[-] grue@lemmy.world 31 points 1 month ago

Why do you hate property rights?

I'm not defending cheating in online games or interfering with Valve's service, but if you think the solution to stopping them is attacking "software hacking" in general as a concept, that juice ain't worth the squeeze. "Software hacking," fundamentally, is nothing more than modifying the operation of your computer, your property that you own. It's no different than buying a physical paper book and then writing notes in the margin.

If you're proposing disallowing people from doing that, you're attacking the concept of property rights itself.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

That would be absurd for me to suggest. I was not claiming that all “hacking” no matter how you define the word, as bad.

I was just stating the source of the problem here. Everyone is really sensitive about the fact.

[-] hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago

Re-read your original comment, m8. If you really didn’t want to condemn all hacking, then you did a good job stating the exact opposite.

[-] paraphrand@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

Context collapse strikes again! Assuming my statements won’t be taken to their extreme is exhausting.

[-] Greddan@feddit.org 10 points 1 month ago

The problem is shitty parenting creating shitty children.

[-] xvertigox@lemmy.world 18 points 1 month ago

The problem is people existing.

[-] reksas@sopuli.xyz 8 points 1 month ago

The problem is existence itself

[-] Zirconium@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Go tell that to existence then

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

dude i spend enough time yelling at clouds

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 1 month ago

Ugh. People. What a bunch of bastards

[-] bountygiver@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

For me the anticheat can win. It's just less fighting on the grounds where the cheaters have advantage (their hardware they have full control of), and on the grounds where they can't control instead, by monitoring behaviour. chess.com is a winning example, no anti cheat software required, yet they can catch cheaters who use a different hardware for assistance (play on PC and lookup moves on phone).

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