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[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 80 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Nothing the left or centre does will ever be enough. Violence is upon you whether you recognize it or not.

Their shitty views were being advanced regardless of the circumstances because the psychopaths aren't constrained by morals, ethics, logic, reason, facts or coherence. Everything is disingenuous, and used for weaponized purpose.

Everything is disingenuous. Everything is disingenuous. Everything is disingenuous.

There is no logic. No reason. No debate. Everything they do and say is to grab power for power's sake. Your mistake, is to imply that if Kirk weren't killed, the fascists would have less reason to hate, persecute and commit acts of violence on everyone else. They hate you not because of what you do, but that you broke their cardinal rule - you're not one of them, therefore a target.

[-] OrteilGenou@lemmy.world 3 points 3 weeks ago

But you're describing them as you claim they would describe you.

[-] calliope@retrolemmy.com 25 points 3 weeks ago

Ah yes, Sun Tzu said โ€œIf your opponent calls you the same thing you call him, thereโ€™s no comeback, game over.โ€

[-] Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 weeks ago

Wait Iโ€™m pretty sure Shih Tzu said that one

[-] Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 weeks ago

Invoking the paradox of tolerance isn't helpful. I'll take a Popper on this one.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paradox_of_tolerance

[-] YouAreLiterallyAnNPC@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

They'll keep using this 'your intolerance feels like their intolerance' argument, and this is the answer. It's like they're surprised about what intolerance for intolerance feels like. It feels like intolerance. Treating fascists like fascists by acting fascist doesn't make someone a fascist. It makes them reasonable. They mocked the tolerance of the left so much, now they can meet the intolerant left.

You'll hear them whine more and more about 'horseshoe theory.' This is what they're crying about. Remember that they can choose to not be a fascist or fascist apologists, and be met with tolerance. But they victimize people based on things that are not choices.

[-] zqps@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, projection is a core skill on the right. That doesn't mean both sides are the same by any means. Facts and truthful arguments are a thing.

[-] undergroundoverground@lemmy.world 5 points 3 weeks ago

You know, I'm starting to think it's not just projection but actually implementing the "law of power" along the line of "accused your enemy of what you're doing, as you're doing it."

[-] mycodesucks@lemmy.world 6 points 3 weeks ago

Okay, sure. They're the same.

Find me an equivalent clip with consistent and unanswered vileness that's even close to comparable from a left wing darling.

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