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[-] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You can run a lot of Android apps with Waydroid or similar solutions on postmarketOS. If a business does not support running their app in such a way, use a web version of their app if the functionality is sufficient, discontinue doing business with them, or encourage them to change.

These compatibility layers can be improved to such a point that mirrors Wine and Proton, where the only incompatibility is caused by a business decision.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 6 points 1 day ago

I've been using deGoogle android for years now, I generally avoid connected devices and even I have couple of apps that require Google services and will not work on Waydroid. Those apps are:

  • app for my car charges
  • app for my car
  • app for my heat pump
  • banking apps
  • Authenticator for work
  • apps for public car chargers

I'm definitely not going to get new charger, car and heat pump because I'm changing my phone. Those apps are so common now I'm guessing most people are tied to some devices that are simply too expensive to change now. I have mortgage and investments in my banks. Switching would be costly and very complicated. There's no way around the Authenticator app. Changing jobs because of this would be silly. Public charger app are unavoidable. Android Auto is unavoidable.

Android is entrenched. The simplest way is having a secondary phone for work, IOT, car and banking. Going completely Google services free is not feasible anymore.

[-] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 1 points 16 hours ago

Your heat pump has a fucking app? WHY!!! Mine goes by the thermostat and will remain that way.

[-] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I'm sorry that you can't feasibly make the switch - thanks for sharing.

You prove a point though, and having two phones seems to be the play. It'd be cool to have a Linux phone and display/control the Android phone indirectly for convenience.

Perhaps there will be a way to emulate or proxy Google Play Services in scenarios like Waydroid. I'm not holding my breath though.

[-] ExLisper@lemmy.curiana.net 4 points 1 day ago

I can't easily make as switch and I'm probably like top 1% when it comes to Google independence. Most people will have Gmail, google photos use gpay daily, use android auto, have even more IOT devices, google assistant speakers, smart doorbells and so on. I'm sure some people are less entrenched but it's a tiny minority.

[-] M1ch431@slrpnk.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

I did concede and I do largely agree with your responses. There's any number of barriers stopping average people from switching, as much as it pains me to admit.

For the tech-inclined, there are plenty of alternative email providers and setting up email forwarding is a breeze, just as there many cloud photo services, CoMaps is likely going to see improvements in navigation, IoT devices/apps aren't always reliant on external services, there are likely viable assistant alternatives around emerging, and hopefully inexpensive, private smart doorbells sprout up.

I personally never invested heavily into a phone. I just never found them particularly impressive, even with higher-end hardware. I tinker more than most people in a general sense, but my phone only gets used like how an average person would. I do a couple things on it, I don't use anything special, and I'm not too picky. I just tend to avoid using the thing unless I get a phone call, message, or I want to check out the weather or social media.

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