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Can we please stop arguing about whether Bluesky is decentralized?
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Yes, as soon as 99%+ of the users aren't on the same server. That's the bottom line. We can argue theory all day but it doesn't change the implications of centralization.
I've spent...quite a bit of time intentionally looking for alternative ATP servers and this is the first time I've heard of this. And I'm balls deep in this stuff. I even run my own AP server. So I'd say it's so obscure as to be meaningless.
My guy. LOL. No. Just no. It isn't.
I mean...yeah? It is.
And we prefer to invest our time and energy into supporting an actually decentralized protocol.
At what point was anyone arguing semantics?
Yes, please, go ahead.
Alternate ATP servers:
Honourable mention to AppViewLite which lets you easily and cheaply host an appview yourself. I can run it on my laptop easily. It doesn't depend on relays, it can crawls PDSes directly.
Plus the many other instances here: https://github.com/mary-ext/atproto-scraping
Thanks!
99% isn't the threshold. I'd say like 25% or less
Doesn't LW control ~30% of the lemmyverse?
Well 25% is very strict, pretty sure mastodon.social is more than that for the Fediverse (I do wish other instances would grow faster to catch up)
But yea anything higher than 50% is kinda missing the point, ideally they would close signups and suggest people signup on alternative instances instead
Majority share is too powerful
join-lemmy.org actually hides any instance that's over 30% of Lemmy https://github.com/LemmyNet/joinlemmy-site/blob/main/src/shared/components/instances.tsx#L451-L456
Is that what you would actually expect Bluesky to do if they were committed to decentralization?
Bluesky traded good user distribution for growth.
I said "ideally", but they probably would've done a lot of things differently if they were committed to decentralization