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I think you may have glossed over the bit about jacking up prices. By then other countries be decades behind in development, not to mention competing with slave wages. There's no way. If there was, they wouldn't be doing it. CCP isn't doing this for the environment, they expect payback.
So the Chinese tech will still be cheaper.
Gee, maybe sending almost all our manufacturing to another country was a stupid fucking idea
Man I've never seen anyone shift quite so many goalposts in such a short time.
What goalpost did I move? You said they’d be built with slave labor which means they’ll still be cheaper, right? And in the meantime we decarbonize huge segments of the global economy.
Don’t be mad just cause western countries wanted to take advantage of slave labor as usual and are getting bitten in the ass because of their greed, or that West Taiwan is doing it better.
This one:
I never wrote that.
But if a side effect of utterly dominating the west in decarbonizing has the side effect of saving the climate I’m not gonna complain.
No, but you did jump into that conversation. If you were trying to have some other argument, you were arguing with a strawman.
There is no "saving the climate". There is only China dominating the industry and then pricing them out of the hands of common people, because they have no competition.
Another effect is destroying the global economy and further diminishing the wages of workers in the US and around the world. But hey, maybe you like being poor.
Good. I hate the global economy.
And maybe if the western countries had a lick of sense it wouldn’t end up this way. But we got addicted to cheap plastic crap and let the Chinese leapfrog us.
Because if we’d left decarbonization to the west it would never have happened.
I have no response to this.