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Let's put ice in the wine and chocolate in the hummus
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This plus all the different Italian names for coffee which, as far as I can tell, are mostly just describing the amount of dairy added.
Well, if the coffee was in different shapes, they would give them all sorts of different names too, even if its the same thing across the board.
Starbucks already did it. They welcome all to order their more than 20 oz Venti, their medium Grande or their small Tall. Just don't pretend words have logical meanings while you drink your $10 burnt coffee.
Just having bought an espresso machine and reading the coffee types listed...
Holy shit this is true, it's like eight types that only vary but dairy or even just the amount of "micro foam" on top.
Not only the amount of dairy.
For Italians, "caffè" is just espresso. Then you have "americano", which is similar to filter coffee even though it's usually made by adding warm water to an espresso.
Then you have "ristretto", which is a shorter espresso.
An americano is indeed an espresso (sometimes double shot) with added hot water. Not Italy specific though, it's just a different thing than filter coffee - but it's true that in Italy you can usually get the former but not the latter.
Some other common coffees: lungo ("long", an espresso that's extracted for longer so it's a bit more "watery"), macchiato ("stained", an espresso with a bit of milk and foam in it, kinda like an espresso version of a cappuccino), macchiatone ("big macchiato", halfway between macchiato and cappuccino), corretto ("corrected", with a tiny bit of liquor, usually grappa or sambuca)