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The more I hear people talk about it who aren't cis-het men, the more I hear criticism about the concept. But so far, I've only heard people say that it's stupid, that it's not a thing, that it's men's own fault etc. But I've yet to understand where that criticism comes from. I don't want to start a discussion on whether or not it's real or not. I just want to understand where the critics are coming from.

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[-] squaresinger@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago

men tend to generally be less interested in social interaction

Is that the case, because they are men, or because they are afraid?

Piggybacking on thsi comment: it's incredibly rare for men to get approached, it's incredibly common for women to get approached.

Both of these situations have downsides, but right now we are talking about men, so let's ignore the downsides for women right now.

If you are the one who has to approach somebody if you want to start up any kind of relationship (from casual acquaintance to friend, to romantic relationship), that means you will be on the receiving end of rejection, by definition. If you are in the "approaching" role, and you'd reject somebody, you just don't approach them. So by definition, it's quite rare when being approached that you are rejected by the person who approached you.

So while women have to reject a lot of approaches they don't want, men get rejected quite often. A socially inept woman is a wallflower, a socially inept man is a creep.

If you have been rejected too often (and maybe too harshly), this might easily turn into a sour grapes situation ("I can't do social interaction, so I don't want social interaction") due to fear of rejection.

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