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Believe it or not, fascism in the human world is generally considered to be more concerning by most people. I sure do wonder why.
So you agree that this is in fact fascism but you don't care because the victims are lesser than you? Gee, I wonder where I heard that before.
Im fine with being against factory farming cause that shit is fucked and causes exreme suffering.
But I am an animal like any other and I eat meat. Like many other animals. We evolved as omnivores. We evolved to eat meat as well as plants. I do not feel guilty eating meat. It would be like judging a lion for eating a gazelle. Thats nature. Thats life.
I dont buy into this idea that we are somehow above it all. We are part of the food cycle.
You do in fact buy into that idea and I can show you with a single example: Do you consider consent important for procreation?
Also, Omnivore tells you what you can eat, not what you have to.
This is true. Only a vegan tells you what you have to.
😂
I mean, you really should also consider consent when you're doing it just for fun.
But in this case it doesn't matter since you can't get pigs pregnant anyway.
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Thats a terrible analogy and you know it. Arguing in bad faith aint gonna get you anywhere.
It's not an analogy, it's an example that shows you being "above it all". Just saying "nature tho" is pretty lazy and I think you know that.
I am a specists, and I believe equal rights and dignity extend to all humans. And farm animals are not humans.
Now, obviously morality shifts as the society evolves so I am open to reconsider my position. Maybe the day we let farm animals vote will be the day I become vegan.
Other animals are lesser than humans. This is why people think self driving cars who have to crash into either a human or an pet should crash into the latter.
Or a cyclist, obviously.
What is true about those other animals that, if it were true about a human, would also make you consider the human to be lesser?
What makes other animals comparable to humans? If you had to choose between a human and a pet dying, which would it be? Could you go up to a holocaust survivor and with a straight face tell them that their suffering is equally bad to a domesticated cow?
severity is not the only axis of comparison
yes, I think he would be fine with that
Yeah I figured that you couldn't answer my question. Maybe think on that.
ntt is a fallacious line of argument. it falls prey to the spectrum fallacy.
Sounds like someone who wants to cover up their own speciesism.
speciesism is necessary for correct action.
Edit:
from the wikipedia page on speciesism:
"Correct" as defined by human supremacists. Yuck.
as defined by a professional ethicist.
I choose to stay alive over giving my life to my neighbour, not because they are an inherently lesser being, but because I value my own life over another.
You rn.
It won't kill me though?