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i originally written a comment referencing different sources, but to keep it simple and to not waste time.
Here is a quote from the Daily Mail:
The legal definition of rape varies by country, but the general definition is that it involves involuntary penetration:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rape
What's new is not the difference between assault and rape, but in how it is decided to be voluntary or not.
It used to be that a woman had to have said no very clearly. While now in many places, lack of acceptance is the same as no. That goes for both rape and sexual assault.
PS:
Wow, imagine being downvoted for showing a clear definition?!
From the article:
Stop defending your proven mistake already and just admit that you did not read and learn to improve and not do it again.
The only definition that matters is the one used by Swiss courts. And Swiss courts found him guilty of rape.
This is a weird fucking thing to fixate on and rail about on a thread about a sleeping 15 year old girl getting raped by a 44 year old. Whether or not she said no changes fuck all.
Of course Swiss law matters. This article is on a Swiss website and reports on a Swiss trial.
If you think someone convicted of rape is not necessarily a rapist, that's on you.
I agree with everything up until the part where you accuse the authors of trying to get clicks. That is literally the purpose of a headline.
They don't really read the article right, what has changed is not what rape is, but when a no is no. so it's WHEN it's rape, not WHAT is rape. The rule also goes for sexual assault.
The law on rape was changed, but sexual assault is still not rape.
Anyways, whether it's the body or the headline that is right, the 2 parts remain at conflict on whether it's sexual assault or rape.
That is interesting, it did not occur to me that the definition would be different in Switzerland.