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Some thoughts on how useful Anubis really is. Combined with comments I read elsewhere about scrapers starting to solve the challenges, I'm afraid Anubis will be outdated soon and we need something else.

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[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 1 day ago

Sometimes I think. Imagine if a company like google or facebook would implement something like anubis. And suddenly most people's browsers would start solving cpu intensive constant cryptographic challenges. People would be outraged by the wasted energy. But somehow "cool small company" does it and it's fine.

I do not think anubis system is sustainable for all the people to use it, it's just too wasteful energy wise.

[-] Tangent5280@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

What alternatives do you propose?

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Captcha.

It does all Anubis does. If a scrapper wants to solve it automatically it's computer intensive, they have to run AI inference, but for the user it's just a little time consuming.

With captchas you don't run aggressive software unauthorized on anyone's computer.

Solution did exist. But Anubis is "trendy" and they are masters in PR within some specific circles of people who always wants the lastest most trendiest thing.

But good old captcha would achieve the same result as Anubis, in a more sustainable way.

Or at least give user an option of running or not running the challenge and leave the page. And make clear for the user that their hardware is going to run an intensive task. It really feels very aggressive to have a webpage to run basically a cryptominer unauthorized in your computer. And for me having a cargirl as a mascot does not forgive the rudeness of it.

[-] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 14 points 1 day ago

"good old captcha" is the most annoying thing ever for people and basically universally hated. Talking about leaving the page, what do you think what will cause more people to leave the page, a captcha that's often broken or something where people don't have to do anything but wait a little?

[-] Randelung@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

Also universally useless. Image recognition solved Captcha ages ago and the new version from Google is literal spyware.

Chuppl has a great video essay on it. https://youtu.be/VTsBP21-XpI

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago

They don't have to do anything but let an unknown program to max their cpu unauthorized.

Imagine if google would implement that. Billions of computers running PoW constantly, what could go wrong?

[-] tofu@lemmy.nocturnal.garden 1 points 1 day ago

They don't have to do anything but let an unknown program to max their cpu unauthorized.

But they currently can't and that's the point.

but captcha is trash whose only purpose is to train ai for google

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

What?

You don't need to use google, or cloudfare, captcha to have a captcha.

There are open source implementations of reCaptcha. And you can always run a classical captcha based on image recognition.

google is like 95% of the captchas on the internet.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 1 day ago

So? You have free will to use another captcha.

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