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[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 4 points 2 days ago

I never said that. But it does show how this black-and-white all the nothing approach makes no sense.

macOS is free because it’s free.

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

I have a MacBook Pro 15” 2018. I paid around $3K for it new. What is the cost for me to update to macOS 26 Tahoe or the one that comes after it?

[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 3 points 2 days ago

I’m running Sonoma on a 2016 MacBook Pro. didn’t cost me anything because macOS is free.

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago

How much to upgrade it to Sequoia?

[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 3 points 2 days ago

Also free. Because macOS is free.

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

It was sort of a trick question. To upgrade to Sequoia you need to buy a new Mac because the 2016 MacBook Pro doesn’t support it. The Mac is a license dongle to use MacOS until you’re required to buy a new dongle.

[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

All operating system systems have hardware requirements. Just because you need to upgrade your system in order to get the latest operating system, doesn’t make the operating system any less free.

You are manufacturing connections that aren’t there in assigning meaning whether there isn’t any just cause you refuse to admit the fact that macOS is free. I guess you just hate Apple that much, but I try not to get so emotionally involved

Repeating the same absurd argument over and over doesn’t make it any more true.

[-] olympicyes@lemmy.world 2 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 19 hours ago)

Geez man we have 5 MacBooks, 5 iPhones, 3 Apple TVs, a few iPads and watches. Even a couple iPods still. Not a hater. But Apple makes their money off selling hardware, not the OS. That doesn’t make the OS “free”, because keeping old hardware updated conflicts with their business model. If you buy a Mac you get 6 years out of it and then it becomes unsupported. What everyone else is telling you is that MacOS isn’t free, it’s prepaid, as part of the hardware purchase. Hope that helps.

[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 1 points 19 hours ago

Oh my God, let it go.

The operating system is free. Your decision to buy other stuff has nothing to do with the cost of macOS.

I’m sorry you simply can’t understand this. Sadly, you clearly can’t let this go, so I’m just gonna block you.

macOS is free. Get over it.

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 4 points 2 days ago
[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 4 points 2 days ago

And in my original comment, I said they hadn’t charged for it in about 15 years. And it’s been almost exactly 15 years.

[-] xthexder@l.sw0.com 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Just because they stopped selling it doesn't mean it's free. The only legal way to aquire MacOS is to buy an Apple product, or somehow get an upgrade from one of those old paid versions (which since this happens through the App Store now, you still need an Apple product).

Windows is also not free even though you can download the iso. There's license terms

[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 2 points 2 days ago

It’s free because it’s free, not because you can’t seem to wrap your head around that fact. Or whatever pretzel branded maneuvering you’re trying to do to validate your position

macOS is free. There’s really no way you can twist that to be untrue. Not without making stuff up.

[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 1 points 2 days ago

A fact is a fact. I’m sorry that’s difficult for you to wrap your head around.

[-] Tortellinius@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Sure, and if you got modern hardware with Windows 7 on it in 2009 then you had up-to-date free Windows since 16 years.

[-] floo@retrolemmy.com 3 points 2 days ago

So what? That still doesn’t mean that macOS isn’t free.

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