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Remember when they claimed that they killed 9000 hamas militant in 3 months?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/israel-war-goals-unachieved-1.7087509

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[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 111 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Note that this means "83% of people killed were civilians", not that 83% of civilians were killed. As the graph in the article illustrates, that puts this neck and neck with other recent genocides:

[-] WoodScientist@lemmy.world 56 points 4 days ago

Notably, Hamas on Oct 7 killed two civilians for every military casualty. By the IDF's own numbers, the IDF are literally greater terrorists than Hamas. Hamas literally does a better job at avoiding civilian casualties than the IDF does.

[-] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 35 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

If you qualify military targets the way the IDF does then Hamas killed over 90% military targets on october 7.

[-] wheezy@lemmy.ml 24 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

And we'll likely never know how many civilians/soldiers were killed by Israel issuing the Hannibal Directive on October 7th. Something we do know they issued that day.

Yes. Israel has a protocol that says "killing/harming our own people is preferred to them being kidnapped".

[-] cley_faye@lemmy.world 25 points 4 days ago

that puts this neck and neck with other recent genocides

The fact that this sentence can be said, unironically, and backed with data, is kinda depressing.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

95% civilians of mariupol? Holy fuck

[-] cygnus@lemmy.ca 13 points 4 days ago

Yes, that's the result of Russia "liberating" a city. I'm surprised Grozny doesn't show up here - enough civilians got away, I guess. The city itself was completely obliterated.

[-] Siegfried@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

In any case, it is civs/total deads.. and maybe Grozny didn't got enough press.

Since Mariupol i have welded in my mind the russian word for children. Freaking animals.

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

Yup. This is why I had to ban someone posting Russian propaganda from a Pro-Russia Mariupol Youtube channel.

"Look how much better things are with Russia instead of Ukraine!" bullshit.

https://neweasterneurope.eu/2024/07/15/how-youtube-helps-russia-share-how-great-it-is-in-raw-and-subtle-ways/

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

you should ban zionists who deny the genocide that killed 85% of civilians too

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I absolutely do, but that doesn't come up as often. Most often it's the anti-zionists advocating murder, death, and destruction.

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

I have reported guys talking about how palestinians voted for hamas or denying occupation

[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Unfortunately, Palestinians DID vote for Hamas. That on it's own is not removable.

It ignores the larger context of WHY they voted for Hamas, a decade of Israeli abuses going back to the 90s and treating the previous elected party (PLO) as terrorists and not a legitimate government, but it doesn't change the fact that Hamas were elected.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2006_Palestinian_legislative_election

[-] mrdown@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

It is always used to blame palestinian to what happened to them

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[-] unconsequential@slrpnk.net 12 points 4 days ago

And that’s if we believe the Israelis aren’t lying to cover their genocide.

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