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[-] IndustryStandard@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

IP is the most robust and best protocol humanity ever invented. No other protocol survived the test of time this well. How would you even go about replacing it with decentralization? Something needs to route the PC to the server

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago

Something needs to route the PC to the server

I don't want client-server model. I want sharing model. Like with Briar.

The only kind of "servers" might be relays, like in NOSTR, or machines running 24/7 like Briar mailbox.

IP. How would I go about replacing it? I don't know, I think Yggdrasil authors have written something about their routing model, but 1) it's represented as ipv6, so IP, 2) it's far over my head, 3) read the previous, I don't really want to replace it as much as not to make it the main common layer.

[-] nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

client-server model. I want sharing model. Like with Briar

Guess what

Briar itself, and every pure P2P decentralized network where all nodes are identical... are built on Internet Sockets which inherently require one party ("server") to start listening on a port, and another party ("client") to start the conversation.

Briar uses TCP/IP, but it uses Tor routing, which is IMO a smart thing to do

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

I'm talking about Briar used over BT.

[-] nymnympseudonym@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Even AF_BLUETOOTH sockets are.... sockets, where one machine ("server') opens to listen, and the other ("client") initiates the stream

[-] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

Sockets are an operating system abstraction and have nothing to do with this conversation.

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