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That's not sexist at all
Women would literally rather be stuck with a bear rather than a man they do not know. So, is it sexism? Or is there a fundamental problem (read patriarchy) that makes women scared of men.
Do you think it’s sexist to report that men commit 90% of all rape and sexual assault?
Its about as sexist to say that, as it is racist to spout crime statistics about black people without solution.
Okay not sexist at all then. Because there’s nothing racist about crime statistics about black people.
What people might do or say in regards to those statistics is typically where the racism comes in.
In a thread where the discussion is men, spouting statistics without solution is prejudicial.
Just like it would be racist to do the same thing with black people.
You're being purposefully ignorant of the current thread we are in.
Oof. I really shouldn’t have to explain the systemic difference between the two.
Also once again, this comic is making the joke that a strange man could be a rapist, and that women are not interested in strange men the same way men may be interested strange women - not that all single men are rapists.
You’re purposefully conflating this comic to the level of hating men, and then to the level of using crime statistics to perpetuate systemic racism. Brother you’ve lost the plot.
Is the patriarchy not a systemic issue?
Bringing up statistics without a solution is problematic, to say the very least.
If you have issue with that statement, then you may need to rethink your approach.
YES! We’re getting to the same page. The difference is the patriarchy defends itself. I’ve never seen a black person fight to defend systemic racism.
But I have seen black people defend themselves when someone brings up crime stats without solutions or discussions of the systems in place.
Weird how that works huh?
Omg we’re so close! Yes they defend themselves because those statistics are being used as weapons in furthering systemic racism. Us making fun of men (once again, not happening in this comic) does nothing but damage the patriarchy, which we agree is good right?
To be clear, when we shit on bad men - I do want there to be nuance that we are specifically talking about bad men. This comic doesn’t need that because he’s either a rapist or he’s not - but it doesn’t matter because he’s still a stranger and that MAY be dangerous.
Yeah, man, we were so close.
And then you went back to being sexist.
Oh well...
It was nice talking to you. Maybe one day you'll be able to see you're being sexist by having negative attitudes attached to gender instead of other contributing factors like socioeconomic status or substance issues
I'm a man. I like being a man. I like the other men in my life. I'm not being sexist, and neither is this comic. You claim I have a negative attitude attached to a gender... I've only criticized rapists. Is hating rapists equivalent to hating men? I've been very clear in my beliefs and why I hold them, and all you've done is some racial what-aboutism. Seriously man, have a think about this one. We're on the same side - the difference being when I see stuff hating on men, I blame the men that give us a bad name, not the women that have chosen to be cautious around men for their own safety. If I ever encountered a woman scared by my presence, I wouldn't get upset and think "wow what a bitch she hates men just for being men". I would become saddened that the world we live in puts women in a position that they fear men.
It's because of these factors that there is nuance with these kinds of jokes.
So if I am being an asshole, I should make the "logical" jump that all single women are whores and sluts because majority of prostitutes are women.
Not all men and not all women. Generalising is never good.
Yes you are being an asshole thanks for noticing. Also wtf are you on about - no where does it say “ALL SINGLE MEN ARE RAPIST.”
You saw yourself in this comic and got defensive - that “whores and sluts” line came naturally to you.
Lmao, so it's only an asshole move when men do it. Gotcha. If I'm an asshole no matter what, then you're a fucking cunt who probably had or would have had her gross face pasted on the Tea app leak.
Ah there you are - this was never about defending men, this was about hating women. Also I’m a man lol
Defending women can involve hating men but not the other way round. Noted
Jeez dude you just don’t get it. There isn’t anything wrong with defending men but this comic doesn’t hate men. You thinking it does is part of the problem. This comic isn’t saying that all single men are rapists - hell we don’t even know if the single man they are showing is a rapist. What we, and women, do know is that men commit almost all SA. It’s a fact. The comic is playing into the fact that they market sex at men by saying “look strange women” and men fuck with it. Saying “look strange men” to women doesn’t typically illicit the same response.
The fact that you are so upset kinda makes me think you might be represented by this comic.
This is the same reaction that I had when I saw the post that says "men are rapists". I got offended.
when we talk about men being dangerous, it’s not in a "LITERALLY ALL MEN ARE EVIL RAPISTS" way.
it’s in a "treat every gun as if it were loaded" way.
That's the same logic that has rounding up brown people in the US now. Some of them might be working for the cartels, so better treat every gun as if it were loaded.
That is way more than just patriarchal society. If a woman would rather be stuck in a room with a bear than a man she doesn't know, there's something psychologically wrong with that woman.
The only way you'd choose a bear over a stranger is if you have a prejudice that all men are violent or rapists. Because the bear will most likely kill you.
Bears are predictable, they will probably run from you or maul you. They don’t kill for pleasure, they don’t keep you alive for a game, they don’t torture you.
The point is a women doesn’t know you, or what your capable of. They do know what bears are capable of.
Women are painfully aware it’s “not all men”. But women also can’t read minds and don’t know your intentions. Can you really blame someone for erring on the side of caution?
Choosing the bear over a stranger isn’t prejudice, it’s avoiding the fear of the unknown.
Calling bears predictable is something an overconfident documentary actor would do. A bear can at any moment decide to just rip you apart. Any "docile" zoo bear can still decide to just shred their keeper at some point.
But that's enough about the metaphor. The point was choosing between certain death and a human with all the possibilities that entails.
It wouldn't just be caution to choose death in that situation. It's paranoia to assume that any random man will just do horrible things to you. Going through life with that paranoia is nothing a mentally healthy person would do. I would definitely blame a woman who really thinks like that. It's not just crazy but also insulting on a personal level. But the good thing is that I don't have to be near any like that either.
You're giving too much credit to bears. They can chomp your face just because they feelt like it, or out of pure curiosity, and won't even notice you struggling to fight them off. Check some stories of zookepers and circus workers killed by them, you'll find that wild animals are completely unpredictable.
In college, I saw a sign that said something like 1 in 6 women will be sexually assaulted. Based on conversations with women around me and my own experiences, I’m pretty sure it’s actually 6 in 6 women.
Before you get upset, yes, I am aware men get assaulted too. That’s not okay either.
I agree with this. Problem is that it is not done by most men, but this post makes it seem like most of them do or want to.
Interesting. I interpreted it differently.
I saw it as women experience assault at such high levels, that they feel unsafe around strangers.
Whereas, men see it as an exciting opportunity, full of possibilities. Not necessarily that they intend to commit assault.
The people commenting on the post are making this implication, the comic itself is bland and dumb and has been overplayed for the last 30 years as a pretty standard joke about the differences between men and women and doesn't really make a suggestion beyond "men and women have different concerns."
The problem is we are all internalizing both perspectives in the most toxic, anti-social ways imaginable and isolating ourselves more and more and making the divide worse and worse every year.
This is like saying that recognizing gay people are assaulted more often is homophobic
It really really isn't the same thing. Stop strawmanning.
You've fallen for the classic blunder.
By jumping in and commenting, you have proven them right in their minds.
It's a thought terminating trap. Women are allowed to call out sexism when they see it against themselves, whereas men are not allowed to call out sexism when they see it against themselves.
One user called me a rapist for this. Like wtf. How anything defending men can be converted to men are rapist pigs, is fascinating.
The reason these conversations are so unproductive is because some people take the wildest read of these jokes ("all men are rapists") and get offended by them, when the surface reading ("men like the idea of meeting a random woman, women do not like the idea of meeting a random man") is crystal clear and non-controversial. This joke could be from a Seinfeld opening monologue, it's such a generic piece of observational comedy.
It takes five minutes to find data that shows that this is very much not sexism.
What data?
Number of dangerous outcomes when meeting a new person in a date by gender.
Violent crime by gender.
Rape events by gender.
Domestic break and entering by gender.
Pick your favorite?
I 100% agree with this data. Men commit more crimes of this nature than women. Problem is not with the data. Problem is that this data is not directly relevant here.
Most such crimes are committed by men but most men don’t commit such crimes. And the post implies that most men do.
Not really. The image (which might I remind you is a comic strip, not some article published on Science or an opinion piece on the New York Times) implies that women feel very differently about "random strangers of the opposite sex near you right now!" than men do.
And that's true, precisely because of the data you just agreed is valid. If I say to a guy friend "dude you're not going to believe this, we were invited to a party with 50 girls and we will be the only two men!" he'll have a profoundly different reaction than if a girl heard from a friend "girl you're not going to believe this, we were invited to a party with 50 men and we will be the only two girls!". It doesn't matter to them, at this point, "oH nOt AlL MeN aRe DaNGeRoUs" what matters is that they'd be in a inherently more dangerous position than men would be in the opposite scenario.
The comic strip is noticing the difference in gut feeling and reaction, not proposing a thesis on men's criminality.
I don’t agree this is the implication. The comic is juxtaposing how men might see a bunch of single women as an opportunity whereas women might see a bunch of single men as a threat. It doesn’t have to be all or even most men in that group for the threat to be real.
Also how is the data not relevant? The data is literally quantifying the problem this comic is addressing: this is a problem that disproportionately victimizes women and the perpetrators are often men, by a large margin. That is literally the basis for why the woman is unsettled whereas the man is relatively carefree.