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Trump reportedly to back ceding of Ukrainian territory to Russia as part of peace deal
(www.theguardian.com)
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Doesn’t much matter, Zelensky has already said that’s a non-starter and their constitution forbids it anyway.
None of these demands are remotely acceptable to European leaders, either. Donbas is the part the headlines focus on, but the security guarantees sought by Russia are more egregious, given they would leave Ukraine totally defenseless.
Hey, they would let the US give security guarantees! Wait... I see what you're saying...
Constitution doesn't matter much when your invader is stronger than you
lmao, 3 years and the great superpower once thought equal to the United States can't win the war they started. Give me a break.
USA was stronger than Vietnam and they still lost. USSR was stronger than Afghanistan and they still lost.
Clearly strength isn't everything. Russia just needs to relearn this lesson they forgot - a determined foe can't be beaten with brute strength alone.
Nobody in the right mind though russia nowhere near usa power
If russia was losing there wouldn't be discussion about ukraine giving up some land but don't get me wrong i don't think they will control those lands forever. No occupation is eternal
You might have some semblance of a point if Zelenskyy and Putin were the ones having this negotiation, but the only two people seriously discussing this are Trump (a moron and a traitor) and Putin (the guy currently losing).
Why does Russia want peace so badly if they could just win at any time? Believe me, dipshits like you have been flooding my DMs for 3 years saying Russia is only a few weeks away from crushing Ukraine and I love nothing more than setting up reminders to come back and taunt you when Ukraine is still here, still fighting, and not willing to take some shitty deal that Trump the Traitor and Putin decided on themselves behind closed doors.
So tell me, how much longer before Russia wins this conflict? Can't wait for your next big prediction Nostradumbass. I'll be sure to save it and come back to make fun of you just like all the others. Nothing else makes me feel more superior.
You are right about one thing, though. No occupation is eternal. The Russian invaders will be expelled from Ukraine eventually.
You are insulting me just because i disagree with you about who has the upper hand in the war although i support ukraine and i agree that morally ukraine shouldn't give up it's land just like palestinians also do? . You piece of trash. Learn some manner
You can disagree all you like, but facts are facts. Ukraine is not losing, Russia is not winning.
If you woke up tomorrow and started saying "I disagree, the sky is not blue it is red." people would rightly treat you like a fucking moron. Same here. Fuck your feelings.
Only your feeling are hurt
You are so dumb if you really think this comparison is accurate
Treaties dont matter when your enemy doesnt respect them,
Russias conditions for peace are surrender, and surrender is death. The Russian army has from day 1, displayed that their intention is ethnic cleansing.
All that matter is who have better stamnia and stronger position in the war. I am not talking morally but just how thr world works
Luckily then that in this case the invader looks weaker. Only thing they seem to be able to do is parrot ”but muh nukes” in all negotiations. If China would drop their support, Russia would be toast. It’s the only thing keeping this conflict alive.
Is china support to russian invasion that big compared to nato and the usa support to ukraine? I think ukraine will lose some territory temporarly. No military occupation is eternal
The crucial difference is that China does it covertly, and partly through its satellites like N-Korea. Western support is open, and frankly the right thing to do in the face of aggressive invasion.
Eternal is a difficult term, but in Russia’s case they never cede anything except in the face of absolute catastrophe, like the soviet collapse was. For instance, Finland has not gotten any of the territories taken from it back, and will not unless Russia happens to dissolve into its states. And those areas are mostly turned into wasteland by now which will be the fate on Donbas too if they get it.
Got a translated source? That’d be a really interesting constitution
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/08/09/world/europe/zelensky-trump-ukraine-russia.html