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[-] ysjet@lemmy.world 20 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I'm going to be honest, this just looks utterly useless for any country that isn't south africa, and ESPECIALLY useless for any country in the northern hemisphere.

Like, yes, sure, you've made all the country's areas roughly equal, but also every single country that isn't south africa is a distorted, warped mess that looks nothing like its actual shape.

Look at parts of europe- every country is a COMPLETELY USELESS shape. Three quarters of them have been turned into diagonal lines. How the fuck is that useful? Europe is the worst area in that regard, but by no means the only one.

It makes it literally useless as a map.

[-] Dearth@lemmy.world 17 points 2 days ago

Every country looks distorted and warped based on your lifetime of experience looking at mercator projection. Every country looks warped and distorted when compared to globes. We learn geography on a flat surface which is inherently distorted because we live on a round surface

[-] ysjet@lemmy.world 14 points 1 day ago

Actually, fun fact, the entire point of the Mercator projection is that it DOES maintain shapes/angles, just not scale. It's a nautical map, it's for sailing. That's why when you look at a mercator map and a globe, the countries look about the same, just potentially different sizes- because that's literally the point of it.

[-] Hugin@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Not exactly it distorts shapes a lot. However if you pick point A on a coast and point B on a different coast the angle of the line is the heading you should sail to go from point A to point B.

So yeah very useful as a nautical map if you want to navigate from place to place. Not accurate in shape though.

[-] devnev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

Who actually uses it as a map though? It's usually only seen briefly in apps, or in various symbols, or on a classroom wall. As a symbol, having the rights sizes would be a significant improvement. In an app, people will zoom in anyway, so at least they'd passively see the correct proportions when zooming out, instead of getting a false impression. In a classroom, it would seem all that more importantly to not give false impressions to kids.

[-] ysjet@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

The problem with that is that it gives a completely incorrect idea of what an individual country looks like, in a way that gives a false impression to kids about what the countries even look like. Suddenly they have to look at one map, and recognize a country, and then look at a zoomed in, more accurate map, and recognize it in a completely different shape. To be frank, most people's geography knowledge is already bad enough- doubling the amount of shapes they need to learn is basically a non-starter.

For classroom instruction, a globe should be being used anyway- that's the gold standard. Why go through all the work and effort of introducing a worse solution, that doubles the amount of studying, and is made completely useless when it can be replaced by a $10 globe?

[-] devnev@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 1 day ago

Is learning the shapes of countries really all that important? I would have thought by the time the shape matters, you're looking at/learning the details of the country, at which point you're not looking at a map of the entire world anymore anyway.

[-] ysjet@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Yes? The shapes of countries- and their relation to other countries around them- is literally the most important part of learning geography in some respects, because of how much that shape is influenced by- and has been influenced by- the surroundings, the socioeconomic and sociopolitical history, etc etc.

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