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I would like to get your opinion about employee owned companies.

I do prefer working for companies that are employee owned. This means that employees can invest in the company and that no shares are owned by external investors. The financial incentive is often the stable dividend rather than making profits due to risen share price.

For me, working at these type of companies is still way better than working for a publicly traded company where profit often feels like the only purpose (to please the share holders). However, I got a bit reluctant to invest in the employee owned company as a employee because I find the system a bit unfair:

  • I find it a capitalistic implementation where the more you are willing (or able) to invest, the larger your cut of the profit. Everybody worked just as hard for that profit so why should you be able to get more if you got more shares.
  • To get a management position, you often have to buy a significant amount of shares "as incentive to do your work as a manager I was always told". Of course, they have more responsibility but they already get a higher salary for that. Why also get a bigger part of the profit?
  • On the management part, if there is also a voting system linked to the amount of shares you have, it also means that the management has a significant (majority?) saying in things. Legally the company is owned by the employees but not when it comes to decision making ( if employees are consulted via their shares).

What are your opinions on this and would you participate? Of course, not participating will not have consequences for the system because others will just buy those shares, but by participating you show support for an, in my eyes, unfair system.

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[-] kirk@midwest.social 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I think there are ways you could provide financing/loan money with defined terms and/or interest rates, so the co-op has debt in your name with a defined risk/reward structure. If you're successful and new members join, there is simply debt in your name in the balance sheet still. At a risk/reward level that hopefully everything thinks is appropriate.

I think entrepreneurship and financing mechanisms can be decoupled from capitalism. In addition to your money being put at risk, it is your time and labor after all at the beginning, and it's not compensated at that time. You could record your hours in setting everything up, it's effectively back wages IMO.

Edit: ofc entrepreneurship and financing methods have existed well before modern capitalism, my point remains!

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