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I would like to get your opinion about employee owned companies.

I do prefer working for companies that are employee owned. This means that employees can invest in the company and that no shares are owned by external investors. The financial incentive is often the stable dividend rather than making profits due to risen share price.

For me, working at these type of companies is still way better than working for a publicly traded company where profit often feels like the only purpose (to please the share holders). However, I got a bit reluctant to invest in the employee owned company as a employee because I find the system a bit unfair:

  • I find it a capitalistic implementation where the more you are willing (or able) to invest, the larger your cut of the profit. Everybody worked just as hard for that profit so why should you be able to get more if you got more shares.
  • To get a management position, you often have to buy a significant amount of shares "as incentive to do your work as a manager I was always told". Of course, they have more responsibility but they already get a higher salary for that. Why also get a bigger part of the profit?
  • On the management part, if there is also a voting system linked to the amount of shares you have, it also means that the management has a significant (majority?) saying in things. Legally the company is owned by the employees but not when it comes to decision making ( if employees are consulted via their shares).

What are your opinions on this and would you participate? Of course, not participating will not have consequences for the system because others will just buy those shares, but by participating you show support for an, in my eyes, unfair system.

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[-] Eldritch@piefed.world 5 points 5 days ago

But are investment systems not a capitalistic feature and thus will be rejected by anarchists?

Why would investment be considered capitalistic? Any neighborhood, shop, union, or council would invest in their futures if they're smart. There's all kinds of investment. I think the only kind anarchist would eschew would be the ones revolving around usury. The favorite of capitalists. Basically what's being discussed.

Why even have the principle of stocks? People have a contract at the company. You can calculate the profit sharing based on the ratio of contract hours + salary compared to the total.

Absolutely. Everyone should be paid fairly for their labor. Anything else would involve usury. Repayment of investment shouldn't be connected to wages in any way. You invest in your company and community because they already benefit you. Anything above wages and debt should be minimal and targeted towards maintenance and reinvestment. Chasing excess profit is absolutely the reason things are unaffordable and people can't afford to live.

[-] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

Yeah, a metro line is an investment, new equipment is an investment, building housing is an investment…

Investment is just the act of putting finances into a position with risk. When done collectively to meet a perceived need investment is good, the problem is that many treat it as a mechanism to exert power and demand personal and perpetual profit

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