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The vast majority of Israelis say they are not troubled by reports of famine and suffering in Gaza, a new poll released by the Israel Democracy Institute shows.

The survey shows that 79 percent of Jews in Israel were not troubled, or troubled at all, whereas 86 percent of “Arab” respondents were somewhat or very troubled by the reports about the war on Gaza.

The survey was conducted between 27-31 July.

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[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

Hmm, a bit of a suspect source. And I can't find the primary source of this quote.

It does look like some of their boats and ships have global range, at least. If the Martin van Creveld quote is authentic, that would imply Rome is the edge of their missile range, which would make sense. I'm guessing Iran is just about as far.

[-] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

They absolutely have the capability. Even without their many aircraft capable of carrying nuclear bombs and fleet of nuclear-missile-carrying submarines, their Jericho III missiles have a range of 11,500 km. From that wiki page:

According to an official report that was submitted to the U.S. Congress in 2004, it may be that with a payload of 1,000 kg the Jericho III gives Israel nuclear strike capabilities within the entire Middle East, Africa, Europe, Asia and almost all parts of North America, as well as large parts of South America and North Oceania.

Regarding the Martin van Creveld quote, check this out.

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 day ago

That one is in the Wikipedia article as well, and is sourced. I can't find him talking about nuking Europe anywhere else.

It honestly doesn't pass the sniff test, either. Nobody likes being threatened, and Israel is heavily dependent on the goodwill of the West (or just the US, now that it's split off). It's way too easy just to bandy around regional chaos and then play as nice and holy as possible with us.

[-] AlDente@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I only put a portion of the quote in the search text to not exclude variations in punctuation between sentences. I wasn't pointing to the string of characters in the search bar, but the results it yielded. The full quote is in the search results, including the threat on European capitals.

I'm not sure how you can continue to say this policy doesn't pass the sniff test. The only context in which I have heard Samson option discussed is in regards to Israel taking out everyone with them. There's been literally books written on the subject, showing Israel's intent and capability (see the sources in the Samson option wiki page for the books).

[-] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 9 hours ago

Most of them cut it off right there, actually, including ones that have every motive to include the rest. AZquotes includes it, but they're an SEO firehose that doesn't screen anything, and it's quite possible sourced from that exact blog.

I don't think there's a point in continuing this. The evidence has been put out there. We'll let the readers decide

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