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[-] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 45 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I am just amaze at how Americans (and those residing in America) have truly been conditioned and pacified to accept such blatant act of self-harm being inflicted. Never mind the defunding of climate change research, but defunding welfare is really the red line most other governments will never cross. In France, they riot whenever welfare is touched. In Russia, of all places, the only time Putin was seriously challenged by the public was when he announced pension reforms. And then he backed down! A dictator!

Americans have been brainwashed to think free healthcare, unemployment benefits and childcare is bad for them! Not even conservatives in other countries will dare touch the welfare because it is a political suicide! What is happening in the US right now is the culmination of liberal values it was founded on; worshiping the altar of individualism at the expense of the common good.

[-] zildjiandrummer1@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago

It's somewhat that, but the key point is the manufactured consent that our biggest corporations prescribe via their media subsidiaries. I'd argue America has the best propaganda in the world. WE'RE #1!!! WOOOO

[-] minkymunkey_7_7@lemmy.world 9 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

That documentary about Edward Bernays. The Century of the Self. The episodes are appropriately named too! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Century_of_the_Self

It explains how we are here. Basically after WW2 the leaders embarked on a psychology advertising campaign for Western civilization where it would be too uncomfortable to wage a war again like that without all the comforts of consumerism. America is at the peak of it.

The only way the citizen of America will really push back is when the government collectively takes something from them that lies at or near the base of Maslow's Pyramid. When it gets too uncomfortable. Or else everything is actually fine.

[-] zildjiandrummer1@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago

100%, people don't lead revolutions with stomachs full of food

[-] vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 days ago

Bread and circus's is often times derided but it was exactly why Rome was so successful. Under all the glory, triumph, and corruption the Roman elite knew damned well what happened when the commoners went hungry and they didn't wanted another Gracchi Brothers incident. Shame for us the modern milksop oligarchy forgot the damned bread.

[-] zildjiandrummer1@lemmy.world 2 points 1 day ago

yeah but, what if they had, like, a really really cool circus?

As someone who has felt true starvation I can assure you that folks would sooner but her the circus for food than enjoy it's entertainment.

[-] StarryPhoenix97@lemmy.world 14 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I remember reading once that we (America) never had a true labor revolution because the labor movement was always divided by racism. It may not always be racism, but during reconstruction the powers that be definitely learned that keeping the lower classes fighting among each other will keep them rich.

We DO have labor history in this country. Unless you're from one of the union stronghold states like Pennsylvania, it isn't taught much.

Even in the founding of our country most of the founders were merchant class. France and Russia have a cultural history of killing monarchs. The US has a cultural history of the wealthy finding a way to keep making money. These two things happened in similar ways but the way that they're framed historically are completely different. Your revolutions are taught to be about bread and injustice. Ours are taught to be about taxes.

Poor Thomas Paine. He tried so hard to help put us on the right track.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Two factors, probably:

  • America has never had a war on our soil, a real bona-fide war anyway. Smaller town or city-sized disputes that got whitewashed and omitted from history, of course. I don't think we fully comprehend what is necessary to protect our freedom? Not apologist here either, just...that is partly why. Look at how much we constantly boast about WWII even though we just showed up late, well-rested with a bunch of guns, after almost turning Fascist ourselves.
  • In America: You protest, you riot, you lose your job because you don't have enough time off available to drive 2500 miles, or the reason isn't valid based on made up rules by your employer. Then you lose your health insurance because you have no job. Then you lose your home because you can't pay the mortgage (or more these days, rent), your car on a 5 year loan is repo'd. So now your family is homeless without transportation or medical care and you're basically dead at that point.

They set the US up to make failure->death the easy fast default option unless you're a proper peasant working the fiefdom.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Indeed, the French beat the Americans hands down.

[-] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

i dont appreciate your sentiments

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