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I've seen sentiments like this expressed even by otherwise normal people I know in real life, not just internet blowhards, and I struggle to get my head around the sheer lack of self-awareness that comes with it.
Think about how it makes you feel to not be represented for 30 minutes of airtime. That's what minorities deal with for the other 23 hours 30 minutes of mainstream programming per day.
(Edit: wow, look at that, I managed to summon a bunch of “I’m not homophobic, but…” weasels)
I dont give a shit. Im Scottish, Im almost never represented in Tv and movies by my nationality. But so what? What I look like and who are love, have fuck all to do with representing me. I dont want to see "ME". The only representation that matters is character. Who a person is, not what they are. What they are means nothing. You can black, and be any number of things. Being black means... nothing. Just like being white means nothing. Being black or white doing make you good or bad, or smart or dumb, or interesting or boring.
Not having to give a shit is a privilege you enjoy. You're trying to claim some sort of minority status when you're very heavily in the majority in your own country, and nobody elsewhere is complaining about how "that show didn't need to have a Scottish character in it, that's forced diversity". There's a ton of Scottish actors who get cast in roles outside Scotland without needing their Scottishness justified in the plot.
Come back when being Scottish makes you a hate target for major religious groups worldwide and then talk about how you don't care about representation.
And theres loads of black, gay and female actors who dont need to justify their casting either. So whats your point? The fact you have to shoe horn in nonsense to justify them being there, is your own bigotry. Not mine. And Im Scottish, thats 5 million people in the world, not counting the endless Americans who claim Scottish ancestry though their long, LONG dead relatives. We are a minority in the world, whether its one you want to recognise or not. My guess is that you would, if we a black people. But I think we both know, your racism only goes one way, right?
The only kind of representation that matters is character. Thats why Ben Sisko was a character. Because he wasnt just "the black captain". He was a fully rounded and complex character that showed the many facets of people human. If all you see in that character is the colour of his skin... Well, like I said. Thats your own bigotry.
I mean, it's very obviously not that, some people just like to pretend it is.
Like, no one is going to complain that Brokeback Mountain is too gay (well, some people will, but those are bona fide bigots). But when you shove two men kissing in every other scene for no reason at all, it gets on my nerves.
And I'm not talking about scenes that make sense and where perhaps having two gay dudes is cool, but the shows people complain about are not that.
As an example the Netflix Sandman - an otherwise brilliant adaptation which for some reason puts gay scenes everywhere, especially where they don't make sense. What's the show trying to convey? That all day dudes are whores who have sex with each other just because they're gay?
And this shit is everywhere - there's a story or whatever and suddenly a forced gay scene happens and the story wouldn't change a single bit if it was skipped.
So, chances are that your "otherwise normal people" friends are just tired of bullshit being shoved down their throats and breaking immersion.
Make a romcom if you want gay dudes constantly being horny, for fuck's sake.
You never hear the phrase “forced straight scene”. Straight people don’t need a plot reason to be onscreen, and yet in your worldview gay people have to justify their existence each and every time. And no, it’s not “everywhere”, it just maybe feels like that if you’re a bigot.
You seem to have just about enough self-awareness to realize that you were being called out, but not quite enough not to just double down on it. The limits of your tolerance seem to be that you’ll allow LGBTQ representation but only if it’s put in a clearly marked corner where you don’t have to look at it.
You really need to spend more time thinking about just why you feel so triggered.
Oh, you do. Not using those same words, but people have been complaining about random sex scenes since forever.
They do - if I have to know whether they're into noodles or lasagnas, there better be a good reason for that.
Wtf? Is projecting homophobia onto people your hobby or something? Fuck your strawman. If fallacies is your way to communicate, this is my last message to you.
I feel so triggered, because every time someone even offers the opinion of "do we really need so much unnecessary gay scenes in everything," people like you come and go "akchually you're just a bigot because you don't like bad cinematic devices that are just virtue signalling."
Anyway, changed my mind, this is my last message to you anyway, no need to have people like you in my life.
Gay scenes, or gay sex scenes?
Merely kissing doesn't count, because straight people kissing doesn't trigger nearly the same response as gay people kissing, exposing clear bigotry on the part of the complainants.