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[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 10 points 3 days ago

Loving the completely unfounded speculation that it must be ~~Eurasia~~ Russia or ~~Eastasia~~ China in this thread.

Y'all are so deep in propaganda you don't even know it.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_geography_of_Nineteen_Eighty-Four

[-] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 27 points 3 days ago
[-] Zombie@feddit.uk 8 points 3 days ago

Oh honey, don't you see the irony of posting the BBC and the government's cyber security centre to refute claims of propaganda?

Do you believe the most technologically advanced country in the world, with the power of silicon valley, an unlimited budget for the military and CIA, currently being run by an outright fascist, is innocent?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Olympic_Games

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/donald-trump-us-hacking-china-b2779104.html

“We have stated our position many times regarding such groundless accusations that lack evidence,” ministry spokesperson Mao Ning was quoted as saying by the AFP news agency.

A spokesperson for the Chinese embassy in the US, Liu Pengyu, denied the department’s allegations. “We hope that relevant parties will adopt a professional and responsible attitude when characterising cyber-incidents, basing their conclusions on sufficient evidence rather than unfounded speculation and accusations,” he said, according to a BBC report.

“The US needs to stop using cybersecurity to smear and slander China and stop spreading all kinds of disinformation about the so-called Chinese hacking threats.”

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/1/1/us-treasury-hacked-are-china-and-the-us-stepping-up-their-cyberwar

It's always China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran that is jumped to because that is the main adversaries of the west. Never India, or Brazil, or Israel, or Saudi Arabia, all capable countries. With not a shred of evidence it's always China, Russia, North Korea, and Iran that are speculated.

No speculation that perhaps Mexico and Canada, two countries currently having beef with the US could be to blame. No speculation that it's a false flag by the US federal government. No, straight to China.

When the Spanish power grid went down straight away the speculation was to Russian or Chinese hacking, investigations aren't finished yet but it appears to have been nothing of the sort, but instead frequency oscillations in the power lines.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2025_Iberian_Peninsula_blackout#Misinformation

It could very well be China etc but straight away with no evidence there's comments like "What are the chances this took place during working hours in China?".

At best it's bigoted, at worst it's U.S. sponsored Lemmy propaganda.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 5 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Yes. There are quite a few completely unfounded pieces stating it is Russia or China or North Korea behind thing X with no proofs whatsoever.

These do not go to prove your point.

Now, there were some proven cases, but attributing every attack to one of these now without judge and jury is nothing but blatant and bold propaganda.

[-] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago

Did you get lost on the way to Lemmy.ml?

1.5 billion in crypto isn't something you can spend without attracting attention, of course it was them.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

People got so deep into their allegiance games that they cannot comprehend anyone standing for the truth.

Fuck .ml China fappers, and fuck .world Russia-guilty-of-everything fans. You're equally terrible in enabling atrocities.

As I said, some cases are confirmed, some are wild speculations. And latter are commonly used in future arguments as confirmations, despite them being mere speculated assumptions.

You can have a barrage of "something-bad" confirmations like these out of thin air, and this is a common propaganda tactic.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 20 points 3 days ago

Would you like to name other likely suspects? It's not standard criminals, there have been no ransom demands. And they're unlikely to piss off the govt to this extent. Which leaves state actors. Gee, wonder who it might be.

[-] Allero@lemmy.today 7 points 3 days ago

Literally anyone until proven guilty?

[-] Deceptichum@quokk.au 18 points 3 days ago

Checks out, it was probably New Zealand.

Fucking dumbarse.

[-] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 17 points 3 days ago

Nobody's passing sentence, it's just speculation about guilty parties. Last I checked that was legal and in fact common discussion.

[-] shortwavesurfer@lemmy.zip 5 points 3 days ago

We're at war with East Asia. We've always been at war with East Asia. George Orwell, 1984.

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