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Some feeds I'm interested in.
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Fair enough, I won't try to make you do it then.
Because they are not earnestly embracing working-class politics, is obviously my answer to this. In my view, any anti-imperialist publication would clearly be against a massive imperialist power killing a million of its own people in a ridiculous and pointless war, not to mention however many Ukrainians, instead of seeking alternative framings where it wasn't really their fault because look what Ukraine was wearing they were asking for it.
Supporting the insurgent wing of the left-est end of British political power, to splinter the effective resistance to the corrupt and fascist wing, is another tactic that would make perfect sense for a publication whose primary goal was victory for Russian-aligned fascism. That's what has happened, to pretty good effect, in the US, France, and Canada, just off the top of my head, and I don't think it is coincidence that it is happening in so many places simultaneously just as a lot of people saying weird little collections of things have inserted themselves into the discourse in a big way.
That's, honestly, one of the reasons I do think so strongly that it's disinfo: The amalgamation of different viewpoints that don't normally belong together ("the Jews are secretly in charge of everything and trying to kill all the Christians" + "Labour's not left enough, we need better than them to help the Palestinians" + "the war in Ukraine is mostly NATO's fault"). I mean, sure, not everyone needs to subscribe to a single monolithic viewpoint in order to be genuine. But a lot of these sources seem to string together exactly the same bloc of misaligned viewpoints, and it always seems to be in a way that wends its way around to whatever would help Russia the most in whatever situation (for example by adding into that "green energy is a scam, we need fossil fuels from Russia to save the European economy" and "AOC is supporting genocide let's stop supporting her" and similar discordant things).
Honestly, I'm not sure were going to see eye to eye here. You're effectively arguing that my highly critical perspective on NATO isn't valid or justified, while acknowledging that my highly critical perspective on israel is vaid and justified, to the point that NYT isn't on the site (which I'm fine with, especially after this recent article they published). When both perspectives are rooted in anti-imperialist views, in historical materialist views, in analysis that accurately places the US at the center of both these conflicts (with NATO as the lapdog in the Ukraine conflict).
With everything the US has been doing to facilitate and aid in the genocide of Palestinians, is it that hard to imagine that they would put another country is a dire position to support their own geopolitical ends? That they would engineer conditions in Ukraine that would goad and provoke Russia into a conflict? I mean Lindsey Graham was quoted saying:
He says the quite part out loud. These are the words of racketeers, not allies. The US State department, in collaboration with Israel are genociding Palestinians, and in collaboration with NATO pushing Ukrainians into the meat grinder of war. This doesn't even touch other active conflicts they engineer, like the one in the DRC, which has never gotten the same level of press.
There is no good way out of this for Ukraine, NATO and the US state department do not care about what's best for them. They will hang them out to dry and squeeze every last drop of value out of their people and their land. It won't end with Ukraine either. NATO has it's sights on China, they will do the same thing to Taiwan, and any other small nation in China's vicinity.
I'm not sure at this point that NATO would even allow it to end. They would have Zelensky killed and replaced if necessary. It's not outside of the US playbook.
What? No. I'm just saying that I disagree with it.
(Actually, highly critical perspective of NATO in general I can completely agree with, I spent a lot of my youth being vigorously critical of NATO while they were engaged in bombing the shit out of Yugoslavia and critical of the US for a huge multitude of reasons. I'm just saying that this particular criticism of NATO, that they were the ones that engineered the Ukraine war, I disagree with.)
It's not hard to imagine, they do it constantly. Including, right now, to Ukraine, by being overall a shitty partner, providing an inconsistent supply of weapons which the Ukrainians can't really turn down but which also come with a big laundry list of restrictions on how they're allowed to use them. I get why they do it, starting WW3 is something that impacts the US and they don't want that, whereas dead Ukrainians aren't something that impacts them so they're fine with it. I'm just saying that doesn't automatically mean that any particular theory which also includes them putting another country in a dire position etc etc automatically therefore becomes true.
You said you didn't want to debate the Ukraine war, so I didn't really say much about it, but if you want me to explain in detail why I don't agree with the theory I'm fine with doing that.