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In short, we aren't on track to an apocalyptic extinction, and the new head is concerned that rhetoric that we are is making people apathetic and paralyzes them from making beneficial actions.

He makes it clear too that this doesn't mean things are perfectly fine. The world is becoming and will be more dangerous with respect to climate. We're going to still have serious problems to deal with. The problems just aren't insurmountable and extinction level.

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[-] Shard@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

Most stupid comments are caused by typing before thinking.

[-] heeplr@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

How is it stupid? It's true and not even contradicting OPs experience.

[-] Shard@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Its missing the forest for the trees. A bit like saying the main cause of shooting deaths in the US is due to bullets hitting people.

Lets assume that most wildfires are indeed caused by arson/accident. But first the environmental conditions must allow such activities to have the impacts they have. i.e. higher temperatures and drier dry-seasons caused by climate change, resulting in a more combustible environment.

[-] heeplr@feddit.de 1 points 1 year ago

But first the environmental conditions must allow such activities to have the impacts they have.

Exactly. There might even be the same amount of arsonists/stupid people as in the 80s but it just burns better now. Incidents were no fire developed in the 80s can now spread to huge wildfires with a much higher chance.

Still the claim is true and probably has consequences for hikers, people who live in the woods, settlements near to forrests etc.

[-] bigkix@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago
[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

So your opinion is that as it gets warmer and drier, more people choose to set fires? And not that the same number of people behave in the same way, but the conditions changing is what makes the fires worse?

[-] bigkix@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago

There are no upticks in number of fires, only percentage of acres they consume. US data, for example (below). Now, you can ignore the data and continue drumming that climate change is causing more fires, but that is not a fact.

[-] Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I don't think you actually read what I said. You are arguing a completely different thing. And your data is supporting my point, not yours. I was specifically saying that it isn't more fires. That each fire is just worse because the conditions are worse. It's drier and warmer causing the fires to spread faster. Global warming is indeed the cause of that.

[-] mayo@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've linked BC wildfire stats case anyone is curious. The US might be an exception?

The current 10-year average, taken from 2012 to 2022, is 1,483 wildfires from April 1 to March 31 the following year. On average, 42% of these are human-caused and 58% are lightning-caused.

https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/safety/wildfire-status/about-bcws/wildfire-statistics/wildfire-averages

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