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submitted 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) by BennyTheExplorer@lemmy.world to c/asklemmy@lemmy.ml

In my opinion, AI just feels like the logical next step for capitalist exploitation and destruction of culture. Generative AI is (in most cases) just a fancy way for cooperations to steal art on a scale, that hasn't been possible before. And then they use AI to fill the internet with slop and misinformation and actual artists are getting fired from their jobs, because the company replaces them with an AI, that was trained on their original art. Because of these reasons and some others, it just feels wrong to me, to be using AI in such a manner, when this community should be about inclusion and kindness. Wouldn't it be much cooler, if we commissioned an actual artist for the banner or find a nice existing artwork (where the licence fits, of course)? I would love to hear your thoughts!

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[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 17 points 2 months ago

People are so dramatic over AI

[-] UltraBlack@lemmy.world 35 points 2 months ago

For good fucking reason. AI wastes fresh water and ruins our climate while being terrible at what it does

[-] marcie@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago
[-] VonReposti@feddit.dk 19 points 2 months ago

It was still trained in a datacenter

[-] marcie@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Damage is already done and it's free. They can't monetize you using it. If anything, downloading it costs them money.

Also some models weren't trained with an obscene amount of compute, like deepseek, which used one data center for only 3.7 days.

[-] TheOakTree@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 months ago

I don't think it's fair to think of model training as a one-and-done situation. It's not like deepseek was designed and trained in one attempt. Every iteration of these models will require retraining until we have better continual learning implementations. Even when models are run locally, downloads signify demand, and demand calls for improved models, which means more training and testing is required.

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 7 points 2 months ago

Doesn't that mean the damage is already done?

[-] meekah@lemmy.world 4 points 2 months ago

Not all of it, but the majority, yes.

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

It seems to do simple illustration images just fine

[-] Iapetus@slrpnk.net 19 points 2 months ago
[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 7 points 2 months ago

The artist you would have paid would have consumed more water than a query

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

I wouldn't have paid an artist to make my furry porn fetish video tho'

[-] Mubelotix@jlai.lu 1 points 2 months ago

Who do you think makes it then? God?

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

It was a glib joke that I wouldn't have paid a creator to make $someRandomContentThatIWpuldntHaveSoughtOutAnyway. Honestly don't care for AI art on aesthetic or ethical grounds tbqh, just a throwaway comment on the internet.

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

I wonder how many people died because someone generated a silly banner.

[-] daniskarma@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago

Some people probably think that thousands will die because of that, while deciding to which exotic country they will travel by plane next month.

[-] RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz 5 points 2 months ago

The whole crusade just seems so out of proportion

[-] Deme@sopuli.xyz 4 points 2 months ago

Ah, whataboutism, how refreshing.

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 1 points 2 months ago

A cool glass of 'this is no worse than that', with a little ice cube that represents the stability of our ecosystems. Very cool, very mindful

[-] Deme@sopuli.xyz 1 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

X being bad is no argument against doing something (even a little) about a different bad thing Y. Fuck excessive flight travel and fuck generative AI. There's no need to only pick one thing to hate.

[-] silasmariner@programming.dev 2 points 2 months ago

Yep very true. I actually intended my comment as an agreement but I guess something got lost in translation, lol

[-] yogthos@lemmy.ml 4 points 2 months ago

I feel like it's just perseveration at this point. This tech exists, it's not going away, people just have to learn to live with that.

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