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submitted 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) by geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml to c/europe@lemmy.ml

“I say two things to Europe. Stop the windmills. You’re ruining your countries. I really mean it, it’s so sad. You fly over and you see these windmills all over the place, ruining your beautiful fields and valleys and killing your birds,” he said.

“On immigration, you better get your act together,” he said. “You’re not going to have Europe anymore.”

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[-] appropriateghost@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

I get what you're saying but I don't think it's higher birth rates either. This falls into a neoMalthusian trap that assumes that we don't have enough resources when it's the privatization of goods and services that makes production and access to goods stagnant and inefficient.

The implication of saying it's birth rates will shift the blame on those who have children, and those are historically poorer people in rural areas/less affluent communities/the global south.

Besides, if you look at consumption per capita it is the richer areas and less populated areas in the world that are using the most energy, polluting the most, and consuming the most.

[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

I'm talking specifically about jobs. The less workers we have, the more workers get paid.

[-] Ragnor@feddit.dk 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

And the less work gets done, so the less money comes back to the country. The cost of your produce goes up when the wages go up, so it becomes harder to compete with competitors from other nations. You risk your businesses defaulting, and the workers losing their jobs so the wages drop once more.

It is not that simple.

[-] Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 day ago

As I said, when you factor in that other countries will have more people it doesn't work out. If the entire world disappeared except Germany, then necromancy would lower wages.

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