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China using families as 'hostages' to quash dissent abroad
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Nah, just people who uncritically regurgitate propaganda, and screech about everybody who disagrees with them being a Russian puppet and a tankie whatever that means.
The most offensive part of being called a tankie is being called British.
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My friend, I would like to remind you as gently as possible that brainwashing does not exist and was in fact an orientalist lie popularized to explain away why US soldiers would support China.
Yeah, that's a fair point. It's important to keep in mind that people are accepting the propaganda because they want to believe it and they understand that it serves their selfish interests.
Yes, thank you for being understanding. I think it's better to avoid calling people brainwashed because -- as one liberal in this thread pointed out -- it denies agency which our interlocutors plainly do have which makes them much more responsible for their bad epistemology than the theory of "brainwashing" allows for.
If we want to persuade people -- and I've seen that you have incredible enthusiasm for that cause! -- we must do our best to meet them where they actually are rather than where we imagine them to be.
I'll get off my soapbox here, I just wanted to mention it. I wish you all the best in your efforts!
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And which of those things were you responding to when you yelled "bootlickers" into the void just now?
Because from my point of view, you are the only one engaging in bad faith personal attacks here.
So yourself basically, just replace Russian puppet and tankie with bootlicker or NAFO supporter.