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Microsoft admits under oath it can't protect French data from US government access. (ppc.land)

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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 20 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Fuck Microsoft but aren’t there data residency laws that say French data must be stored in Europe?

So that way, when push comes to shove, no country has their data hosted on enemy servers?

I’m not saying companies follow this, but I always thought they made these laws as part of GDPR.

[-] Wolf@lemmy.today 29 points 1 month ago

Fuck Microsoft but aren’t there data residency laws that say French data must be stored in Europe?

The problem with U.S. companies operating in Europe is the CLOUD Act. It doesn't matter where the physical servers are located, if the U.S. Government wants access to the data, U.S. Based companies are required by law to allow it.

[-] calcopiritus@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago

If they wanted to, they would do like they do with taxes. "Oh. It is not our data, that data is owned by Microsoft company of the virgin islands, which is totally a different company from Microsoft USA"

[-] Wolf@lemmy.today 17 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

Sure, but you have to remember that U.S. based corporations and Microsoft in particular are formed from pure evil out of the deepest darkest pits of hell and they love nothing more than sucking the asshole of the U.S. Government, who turns a blind eye to their monopoly and lets them get away with the most foul and disgusting business practices their little black hearts can think of.

They happily facilitate the U.S. Government to spy on U.S. Citizens when there isn't even some heinous law that allows them to legally do so. If they don't even give a single shit about their friends, family and neighbors- what are the odds they would go out of their way to protect Europeans, what with their love of 'consumer protections' and 'anti monopoly' laws?

[-] Bilaketari@reddthat.com 7 points 1 month ago

An important point of the CLOUD is that subsidiaries are essentially also covered, unlike what happens with taxes/income.

[-] Renohren@lemmy.today 15 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

I work for a french public owned company in transport. The whole company uses Microsoft 365, "sysadmin is an idiot and I don't trust his password system" [ editing done] etc... Oh yeah, no one thought about cleaning up the system so copilot's here all right, just sipping in the corner.

We are truly f***d .Doesn't matter whom attacks, the US, China, Russia, indépendants. They can paralyse this transportation network in a snap. And I know it's far from a lone example.

The french public services are hopeless as far as computing and basic security is concerned. There are a few times when they struck genius and got productive, secure services out, but day to day companies that are the infrastructure of the country itself are hopeless.

[-] RvTV95XBeo@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 month ago

Yes BUT, the US government can fine them whatever they want / threaten contracts / revoke their ability to do business in the US.

Ultimately their ability to function in the US is largely dependent on them doing whatever the fuck the government wants. If forced to choose between the US and EU, they're almost always going to choose US.

[-] springplums@lemmy.world 1 points 1 month ago

I really dont think that it matters if the data is in Europe. If the company is American then it will not matter. The data must be in Europe AND the company must be also European, this way it can not be forced by the US to do anything.

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