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submitted 2 weeks ago by hisao@ani.social to c/fediverse@lemmy.world

When I tried it in the past, I kinda didn't take it seriously because everything was confined to its instance, but now, there's full-featured global search and proper federation everywhere? Wow, I thought I heard there were some technical obstacles making it very unlikely, but now it's just there and works great! I asked ChatGPT and it says this feature was added 5 years ago! Really? I'm not sure how I didn't notice this sooner. Was it really there for so long? With flairs showing original instance where video comes from and everything?

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[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 246 points 2 weeks ago

I asked ChatGPT

Why do people bring this up every fucking time?

[-] x00z@lemmy.world 93 points 2 weeks ago

Because they know it's not accurate and explicitly mention it so you know where this information comes from.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 37 points 2 weeks ago
[-] Xkdrxodrixkr@feddit.org 31 points 2 weeks ago

Because they'd still like to know? it's generally expected to do some research on your own before asking other people, and inform them of what you've already tried

[-] FlyingCircus@lemmy.world 69 points 2 weeks ago

Asking ChatGPT isn’t research.

[-] Bebopalouie@lemmy.ca 13 points 2 weeks ago

AI seems to think it’s always right but in reality it is seldom correct.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 9 points 2 weeks ago

Sounds like every human it's been trained on

[-] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 weeks ago

No, it sounds like a mindless statistics machine because that’s what it is. Even stupid people have reasons for saying and doing things.

[-] iopq@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago

Yes, stupid people's reason is because Trump said so, so it must be true

[-] BullCrapDetekta33@lemmings.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

It makes idiots whine

[-] sexy_peach@feddit.org 18 points 2 weeks ago

People also say they googled, unfortunately

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 83 points 2 weeks ago

Not the same thing.

google allows for the possibility that the user was able to think critically about sources that a search returned

chapGPT is drunk uncle confidently stating a thing they heard third hand from Janet in accounting and then taking him at his word

[-] _NetNomad@fedia.io 24 points 2 weeks ago

but at least your drunk uncle won't boil the oceans in the process too

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

How dare you, my drunk uncle is completely capable of boiling the oceans! He was even boasting about it at our last family dinner!

[-] Wildmimic@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago

noone boils the ocean with using chatgpt

one transatlantic flight produces the same amount of CO2 as 600000 ChatGPT requests; if you use Quen 2.5, you need to make nearly 2 mio. requests.

To set this in relation, transport only for Bezos wedding in Venice equals about 54000000 ChatGPT requests.

Using a LLM once in a while is negligible.

[-] Aatube@kbin.melroy.org 8 points 2 weeks ago

People before ChatGPT thought critically of things on Google as much as they do ChatGPT today.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

People before facebook thought critically of what they saw on the news as much as they do facebook today.

Sure, people didn't think about things too much at any point in time and sources aren't always perfectly reliable, but some sources are worse than others,

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago

You’re giving people using google too much credit.

[-] WoodScientist@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 weeks ago

Unfortunately now Google is ChatGPT. It provides its own shitty AI answers, and its search results have been corrupted by an ocean of slop.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I assumed it was bwing used the current common usage for using a web search, like how kleenex is used for any facial tittle, not literally Google the search engine.

Speaking of literal, Google is putting Gemini results before search results, not using chatGPT.

[-] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Ai's provide you with links so you can use your critical thinking

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago

Do you click on the links?

If they are links from the search, isn't that just the same thing as doing a regular search and verifying the results?

What does this extra layer add other than an unreliable middleman who is extremely inefficient?

[-] legion02@lemmy.world 12 points 2 weeks ago

But don't you see? It allows the corporations to insert their opinion into the answer and bias you before you click that link. That's better right?

[-] IllNess@infosec.pub 2 points 2 weeks ago

You are correct. AI can give an a completely different answer than its source and they can just blame it on AI. This is true but Google has sway the results given depending on the individual. Obama talks about this and how it contributes to the extreme divide of people of the US.

[-] IllNess@infosec.pub 9 points 2 weeks ago

It steals content from creators while being worse for the environment at the same time. Not the same thing, it is worse.

I worked in education in computer science and basic usage in nearly every age group. When you realize how bad people are at using search engines, you can see why people think they accomplished something using AI. It's like giving a child a calculator saying he can do math now.

Creating search prompts itself is a skill. You wouldn't think so until trying to teach some one logic through search prompts. It is hell, literally my hell. Some people just don't get it like 0 percent.

Differentiating what is a good source and what is a bad source is an even harder skill. People will believe what they want to believe. Google search adapts to the bias of individuals because it keeps people searching. This is why, even though it isn't perfect, engines like duckduckgo are important.

[-] thedruid@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

Because people are dumber than chatgpt.

It also proves we don't have a 50/50 split in intelligence. We need to look at the mean, then we'll see most people are just plain fucking dumb

[-] hisao@ani.social 6 points 2 weeks ago

Also, lazier. I'm more likely to stick with information from the first 1-3 search results I decided to click, while AI will parse and summarize dozens in fraction of time I spend reading just one.

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Honest answer? It's easy and it won't judge you for asking stupid questions.

Edit - people are replying as if I said I do this. I'm sorry for the confusion. I don't. This is why I see other people do it. When it comes to the general population, most people don't care, they just want easy.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Search engines and Wikipedia don't judge you for asking stupid questions either.

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 7 points 2 weeks ago

You're right, but they take actual thought and effort. People who use chat gpt don't wanna do that.

[-] sixty@sh.itjust.works 4 points 2 weeks ago

Almost all content has been hyper-optimized to rank well on Google, not to provide good answers for humans

[-] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 12 points 2 weeks ago

No it'll just hallucinate shit that'll make you look dumb when you go and state it as fact.

[-] GrayBackgroundMusic@lemmy.zip 5 points 2 weeks ago

Yep, agree. That's why I don't personally use it.

[-] BullCrapDetekta33@lemmings.world 11 points 2 weeks ago

"I used chatgpt"

[-] Affidavit@lemmy.world 5 points 2 weeks ago

I think it's because it causes all of Lemmy to have a collective ragegasm. It's kind of funny in a trollish way. I support OP in this endeavour.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Even the small local AI niche hates ChatGPT, heh.

[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

I asked ChatGPT and it says this feature was added 5 years ago! Really?

How would you phrase this differently?

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 4 points 2 weeks ago

"It looks like this feature was added 5 years ago."

If asking for confirmation, just ask for confirmation.

[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

So, your solution is for the user to provide less information and then respond to people to inform them if they used chatgpt if asked?

It just seems like much less reps are used if they say they used ChatGPT.

Additionally, if they don’t say it and no one asks, in the future people might look for a source, at least this way there is a warning there might be misinformation.

I know what your going to say next, they should research the thing themselves independently of ChatGPT, but honestly, they probably don’t care/have the time to look up released notes over the past few years.

[-] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Why would anyone ask where they got the info if it is accurate?

[-] neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 2 weeks ago

The point Is that it might not be accurate. It’s like saying, “a friend told me…”

It lets the reader know that the information being shared was presented as truthful, but wasn’t verified by the commenter themselves.

[-] muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

This is the golden age of misinformation and you are bitching about citations?

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