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Israeli settlers beat American to death in West Bank; US says it’s aware
(www.aljazeera.com)
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Sorry your straw man didn't work.
I am begging reddit debate lords to actually learn what 'strawman' means, rather than treating the wikipedia page on logical fallacies like a list of magic incantations.
I am also begging them to just talk plainly: "You strawmanned me", rather than this insufferable nerd sarcasm bullshit of "sorry you strawman didn't work."
I mean if, we're being real, it was also a whataboutism. "What about what the democrats did?"
Get better.
Whataboutism is itself a thought-terminating cliché.
Citations Needed podcast: Whataboutism - The Media's Favorite Rhetorical Shield Against Criticism of US Policy
The modern whataboutism is the bothsidesism.
Basically a straight up admition that they're both meaningless though terminating cliches
Another straw man. You guys are on a roll.
What is cliché is resorting to strawman arguments and whataboutism/bothsidesism when your dogmatic incantations don't win the day. They are the refuge of the weak. Attempting to devalue the ideas is a transparent effort to reduce the impact of your weakness being labelled, It's the same as white supremacists loudly calling out Godwin's Law when they are rightly labelled as Nazis or Zionists labelling legitimate criticism of the actions of the state of Israel antisematism. Mike Godwin himself said, "By all means, compare these assholes to Nazis. Again and again. I'm with you."
Man, you really can't stop yourself from talking like the biggest reddit smuglord loser alive
Ad hominem. You just can't help yourself.
Have a good faith conversation. As long as you use these super weak devices I'm going to call them out. I don't care what names you call me or what insults you hurl.
Still going down your list of magic debate spells, wandering why none of them are working
That's an interesting excerpt. I always thought the proper response to an identified whatabout is to simply say "I asked you first." -That's assuming the opposite party refused to respond to the initial premise, argument, or question. I imagine if they did respond to the initial premise, argument, or question then asking whatabout... is just a standard form of discussion and debate, or so I'd think.
Do you lot insist on writing like the most annoying losers on earth deliberately?
You know what the absolutely weakest whataboutism is? Both sides!
You're on a roll. Do a Gish Gallop next! I love Gish Gallops!
I see you're now just going down the list of magic incantations you learned from Wikipedia.
Not to mention, doubling down on talking like the biggest reddit loser imaginable. How about you tell us about bacon and narwals next
Having your bullshit called out clearly triggers you. Have you considered making informed, good faith arguments instead of trying to devalue the labels legitimately applied to your weak devices? Don't want your strawman called out? Don't use strawman arguments. Don't want your whataboutism called out? Don't use whataboutism. Don't like that I called out all your normal devices? Don't use them.
If you stop using those weak devices and actually engage in a good faith discussion I'm here. Keep using those weak devices and I will keep calling them out.
Stopped reading here
Stay in your safe space, dude. It's scary outside the echo bunker.
Was there ever a time you didn't talk like the cringeist nerd on Reddit?
I still don't care about your name calling or insults. If you have anything meaningful to add to the conversation let me know.
What's the matter, run out of Wikipedia incantations?
I see you discovered more magic invocations to parrot.
Your insults have no power here.
The MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don't give a shit that a Palestinian American was killed because they don't believe that he was a "real" American because he wasn't white, he wasn't a Christian, and he wasn't a MAGAzi bootlicker.
If you want to have a conversation I'm here but you haven't made any good faith effort to contribute to the conversation for several comments.
Why would I try to converse in good faith with someone who responds by randomly copy pasting Latin from Wikipedia because reddit taught them that's what debate is, while consistently talking in the most smug, condescending and disingenuous tone imaginable?
You would participate in a good faith conversation because you have intelligent opinions on the topic of the conversion which is the fact that the MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don't care that a Palestinian American was killed because they don't believe that he is a "real" American because he isn't white, he isn't Christian, and he isn't a MAGAzi bootlicker.
You instead used weak devices as a bad faith effort to distract from the subject of the conversation and thus to derail the it. My calling out those weak devices has rendered you completely ineffective. All you've done is whinge about my calling you out and called me names and hurled insults.
It didn't work. It isn't going to work. I'm still here and I'm still willing to talk about the fact that the MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don't care that an American Palestinian was killed because they don't think that he's a "real" American because he wasn't white, he wasn't Christian, and he wasn't a MAGAzi bootlicker.
If you want to have an intelligent conversation I remain willing, or just keep hissing and spitting, whatever.
Why? When you're just going to respond with copy pasting reddit debate incantations, lying, and talking like an anime villain. Which is exactly what you continue to do.
That's you, boo.
Apparently you are
You just can't help yourself can you? One tired cliché after another.
The MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don't care that an American Palestinian was killed because they don't believe that he was a "real" American because he wasn't white, he wasn't Christian, and he wasn't a MAGAzi bootlicker.
A conversing isn't a debate. It's an exchange of ideas with the goal of expanding understanding of each other's opinions.
Do you want to have a conversion or do you want to continue to use one tired cliché device after another and have me point them out? The problem isn't that I'm calling them out. The problem is that you're using them in the first place. Stop being so weak and ineffectual and actually have a conversation.
Damn, now you're gone from copy pasting retorts you didn't understand from Wikipedia from copy pasting retorts you didn't understand from me
The MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don't care that an American Palestinian was killed because they don't believe that he was a "real" American because he wasn't white, he wasn't Christian, and he wasn't a MAGAzi bootlicker.
Still here when you have something intelligent to say.
Are you actually willing to talk without resorting to insults, misapplying formal debate jargon you don't understand, or misrepresenting what was previously said?
I did not insult you.
I pointed out that you were using logical fallacies to attempt to derail the conversation. If you don't use logical fallacies I will not point out that you are using logical fallacies.
So the answer to my question is no, you aren't actually willing to do that
Strawman.
If you don't do it I can't point out that you did it.
You already confirmed your answer to my question is no, you don't have to keep doing it.
And you already tried the "STRAWMAN!" incantation.
Strawman
I've pointed out that you have used strawman arguments more than once because you've used strawman arguments more than once. If you stop using logical fallacies I'll stop pointing out that you're using logical fallacies. I'm not going to stop pointing out the fact that you're using logical fallacies because you don't lie the fact that I'm pointing out that you're using logical fallacies or because you keep whinging about it.
The MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don't care that a Palestinian American was killed because they don't think he was a real American because he wasn't white, he wasn't Christian, and he wasn't a MAGAzi bootlicker.
Some Reddit refugee is downvote every one of my comments. How fucking pathetic.
So your answer continues to be no.
Strawman
If you want to have a conversation about the fact that the MAGAzis and MAGAzi bootlickers don't care that a Palestinian American was killed because they don't think he was a "real" American because he wasn't white, he wasn't Christian, and he wasn't a MAGAzi bootlicker without using logical fallacies I'm happy to do it. If you continue to use logical fallacies I will continue to point out that you are. It's really easy. If you want to have a good faith conversation I'm happy to do that and I will continue to ignore your insults and name calling. Up to you.
Nah, you already admitted you're not actually willing to behave in good faith
If you change your mind, let me know.
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