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The dismissal of tankies really bothers me.
Remember Iraq's WMDs? Remember how the intelligence reports were actually based on a Nicholas Cage movie called The Rock? Remember how this goofy story was nevertheless widely reported and believed, and America still invaded Iraq, and 2.4 million Iraqis still died? Remember how 4 in 10 Americans still think America found WMDs in Iraq to this day?
the Iraq WMDs story inundated western media. It was everywhere. And everyone believed it. And millions died as a result. Tankies and other leftists disagree mainly on what is western distortion and what is true. That is an important question to think about, not one to be dismissed out of hand. America does lie about its enemies, and it does have enormous resources for selling those lies to the public. And people die when those lies are believed.
"The dismissal of tankies really bothers me"
I am gonna make it easy.
If you are a holocaust denier, Stalin/Mao/Hitler/lenin fetishist or "defend" how they ruled their people then you are purposely keeping your eyes shut.
There is so so much literature to read and material to watch about these people that you actually have to actively dodge it to not know what they have done and some of the regimes that came from them are still doing.
Just because you are right about 1 thing doesn't mean that it validates every single believe that you have.
There are also enough people who are not the above who were against the invasion of Iraq and already foresaw why the US went there.
But this is the thing; It is your choice to believe the above. It literally is a choice, the truth is different. It is literally a choice to close your eyes towards history and the crimes authoritarian rulers and regimes are still commiting towards their citizens.
The western world is not perfect but there is a reason people are fleeing towards western nations and not the other way around.
The reason people are fleeing towards western nations is that the west extracts 25% of its GDP from the impoverished colony states these people are fleeing from.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S095937802200005X
As for the rest of what you said, see my other comment
I love the fact that you all have a notepad somewhere with written statements for these subject. Don't make it to obvious.
What is the point you are trying to make with that article? That western nations are not perfect? That because western nations are taking advantage of others that it is okay for countries to commit mass murder? That authoritarian regimes are born from western actions? That inequality all around the world is born from the actions of western nations?Tell me what is your angle and what do you want me to do with the info you provide which is information that I already knew.
In regards to your other posts;
Criticizing journalism is okay. Not taking everything at face value is a good practice to have.
But willfully ignoring history and everything that has been said and written about it is just still and again people purposely closing their eyes.
I still do not understand why someone would not take the time to actually read the literature and watch the footage of how hurtful these regimes have been through the years.