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submitted 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) by rodneyck@lemmy.dbzer0.com to c/worldnews@lemmy.ml

BREAKING: Israel has just killed Dr. Marwan Sultan in Gaza. They dropped a bomb on his home, murdering him, his wife, and their children. He wasn’t a combatant. He was a doctor who devoted his life to saving others.

‘Shock and grief’ as senior doctor killed in Israeli airstrike in Gaza

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[-] devolution@lemmy.world 30 points 3 weeks ago

Doesn’t matter. As long as the US supports the insanity, it won’t end.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 11 points 3 weeks ago

Pretty sure the real goal of Israel is to do enough damage so that even without the support of the US they can maintain control over the region.

With the recent attacks in Iran I'm not sure it will end even if America ends its support.

[-] DeathsEmbrace@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

No its fucking worst case scenario. An alt right religious extremist we are so stupid that we cant see this is literally ISIS with jewish leaders and USA support.

[-] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 5 points 3 weeks ago

The Iran situation only ended because America got involved. Israel was running out of air defenses and couldn't establish air superiority over enough of Iran to stop Guerilla style launches despite getting air superiority early on due to their initial surprise opening. Even before we "got involved" with the bombs, most of the missiles that got shot down were shot down by American systems iirc.

If the US ended support, Israel would have no choice but to capitulate and stop being a genocidal apartheid always picking fights in the region, or to activate the Samson option.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago

The Iran situation only ended because America got involved.

Call me pessimistic but I don't think the "Iran situation" is anywhere close to being over.

Israel was running out of air defenses and couldn't establish air superiority over enough of Iran to stop Guerilla style launches

I don't think air superiority was ever in question. If anything Israel might be running low on anti-air defense that currently allows them to strike without receiving any meaningful retribution.

When talking about achieving air superiority it usually refers to being able to provide combined arms air support for ground troops.

If the US ended support, Israel would have no choice but to capitulate and stop being a genocidal apartheid always picking fights in the region, or to activate the Samson option.

Maybe if it happens right now.... but with trump in the White House I wouldn't count on it. I think another three and a half years of support maybe enough to where they could mobilize to a wartime economy and commit it's population to total war. Israel is currently trying to straddle a somewhat normal economy in the hopes they don't spook the civilian population into unrest. But who knows how crazy they're going to get in the next 3 years.

[-] devolution@lemmy.world 2 points 3 weeks ago

Genocide is not control. Control is what they made efforts on during Biden. This is not control. This is elimination.

[-] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 9 points 3 weeks ago

They were literally doing the same genocide under Biden this is denialism.

[-] devolution@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

So Gaza aid was outright denied under Biden?

So weapon shipments weren’t threatened to be removed under Biden?

So Palestinians were shot at Gaza aid stations under Biden?

Israel was blatantly seeking full annexation under Biden?

The “hostages” were conveniently ignored under Biden?

The settlers were so brazenly hateful and emboldened that they shot at IDF forces under Biden?

Iran was preemptively attacked by Israel and reinforced by the USA under Biden?

Yeah, Biden did a crap job with the Middle East but he at least didn’t take the extermination with glee and advertise hotels in the West Bank.

You are no different than those Abandon Harris clowns.

[-] IttihadChe@lemmy.ml 3 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Read the amnesty international report finding that Israel is committing genocide and their reasoning.

Which came out while Biden was in office.

https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2024/12/amnesty-international-concludes-israel-is-committing-genocide-against-palestinians-in-gaza/

TLDR: Yes. It was literally the same Genocide under Biden. You just didn't care then unlike the rest of us.

[-] devolution@lemmy.world 1 points 3 weeks ago

You’re right. I was busy worrying about the future and the shit show a Trump presidency would cause while most of you were virtue signaling.

Congrats. Harris lost. Now Gaza is really fucked.

[-] TranscendentalEmpire@lemmy.today 1 points 3 weeks ago

I mean, that's a semantic dispute. Most genocides are perpetrated with the aims of seizing control over a territory or resource.

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