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G7 leaders: ‘Iran can never have a nuclear weapon’
(www.politico.eu)
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Ukraine gave up their nukes, look what happened to them. Libya gave their nuclear weapons program up, and look at them today. North Korea didn't, and they're still standing, for better or for worse. Iraq was accused of having nukes, but didn't have them, and got destroyed. Seems that if you want any semblance of sovereignty outside of NATO, you better have some nukes.
So for any nations reading along I'll summarize the basic conclusions:
Do you think Israel would be bombing Iran if they had nukes?
Are you claiming that the world would be a safer place with every other unstable or authoritarian country having nukes?
He didn't say the world would be safer. But history kind of shows it is in each countries self interest to have nukes vs not having them.
MAD safer no, but essentially disabling conventional warfare as a practical idea yes.
India and Pakistan are armed to the teeth, yet they haven't fought a real war ever since they both got nukes.
What makes you assume said countries would not act exactly like Russia towards others without nukes?
You're kinda making the point for them
But then we're back to "would world be safer with every crazy person having nukes?"
Some are ready to watch the world burn
Who decides which country is "crazy"?!
Religion mostly
Lmao Hamas would have launched them at Israel and we would be seeing world war 3 with nukes. The fact that you think Hamas would be more responsible with WMDs than US, which hasn't used them since Japan, is bizzare
Your comment does not argue against my point, but suddenly starts talking about something unrelated. Fine, to entertain your randomity, imagine Fatah has nukes. Would you believe they'd excercise no-first-strike policy, or would live by their promise to destroy Israel?
And if roles were reversed, how many countries do you think they'd have invaded? Basically US with sharia law.
Wat
Act like the USA?
US is expanding? When was the last time US annexed a territory? Did you honestly just try to make US as a better example than Russia in this context?
https://i.imgur.com/AJinNsQ.png
There’s Afghanistan, Iraq, and these days there’s talk about a 51st state, rumblings about Greenland, Palestine
American aggression and coups in various countries… there’s so many examples going back to Vietnam and maybe before.
Basically after the British cocked up so many countries in the world, it passed the baton to America.
Iran is one example of a country whose problems are directly caused by American interventionism.
You wrote all that and failed to give me one example of annexation by US. Israel is annexing Palestine. Russia is annexing Ukraine. US didn't annex Afghanistan or other countries. The states/countries live on, sometimes better than before. There is a huge difference.
I honestly believe trump is BS'ing about annexing Canada.
You don't have to annex countries nowadays to make them your colonies. You just let your companies take all the business there, exploiting the resources etc, you install a few military bases to serve your geopolitcal interests, aka war games, and just for show you let them elect your lackeys as local representatives of the empire. The american empire is the largest one in the world currently, even without techincally owning all that land. There is no need to, it's the 21st century. Power is not measured only by land.
Oh no, I didn’t. I gave you examples of the USA doing much worse things. I also replied to your comment about Russias behavior to other countries, of which only 1 they had attacked. How many did America attack?
In any case the USA would have stayed much longer if in their occupation of the Middle East if public pressure, suicide rate of their forces etc.
Tf? How is, for example, doing a genocide in gaza (part of annexation) better than wiping out terrorist groups in Iraq?
Why? Give it some thought and actually come up with a logical answer, because countries do not invade US because of nukes, but because they have the most advanced army in the world. Nukes for US changes nothing, they're there only as an answer to other nukes.
Give me one quote where US has threatened Palestine with nukes if they shoot back or whatever you're hallucinating right now